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The Flash
01-10-2011, 06:48 PM
Just got a '81 "Hull Works" el toro for the kids (yeah, for the kids, yep, that's it)

Kids and wife want it lookin good - so I pulled all the old hardware off, ground off a prior owners attempts at stiffening the floor and am deciding that i'll need to do something. It's like a drum head, push with your hand and you'll get deflection. Gel coat on the outside of the hull is all crazed due to the flex.

So - I could get some foam, fit it, vacuum it down, cover it, etc

or just get some Core Mat - which is obviously heavier, but would it be good enough? The boat is an '81, so I'm not really all that concerned with minimum weight, etc.

I certainly like the idea of an inexpensive, easy fix - but am assuming that the core mat would actually provide the needed fix.

Thoughts?

aA
01-10-2011, 07:11 PM
so you went with the toro afterall eh? the core mat will be plenty sufficient and you will see many older boats with the same repair

one suggestion, unless the girls have grown (in weight) a lot since last time i saw them, cut down a main. pretty common for the smaller kids

see you at jr program in october?

The Flash
01-10-2011, 07:20 PM
Absolutely! Cool - coremat it is. 2mm sufficient? or 4?

And I think it's going to be metallic cherry apple red.

aA
01-10-2011, 07:24 PM
i'm not the best at layup specs, but i think two should be sufficient. our cab has a little flex as do the non carbon moore's

big fan of color! nice choice

BobJ
01-10-2011, 09:02 PM
Speaking of Moore's - If you have a newer one, don't send your kid to the Stockton Sail Camp with it. Don't ask me how I know this.

Also, if it has a bendy mast made from a beautiful length of aircraft grade spruce, your younger (lighter weight) kid can sail it without breaking the mast. You, however, cannot.

The Flash
01-10-2011, 09:35 PM
Thanks for that - good to know. And yes, it's a very pretty spar. So I need a Dad's rig to go with it?

BobJ
01-10-2011, 09:53 PM
If you plan to hike out in breeze, you might consider it. I have one of the last "seven-lam" mast blanks from Smith's shop hanging in the garage. I'd like to get a carbon rig for the Toro but that's $$$. Instead I should pull that blank down and finish it up. It could handle anything.

The Flash
01-10-2011, 10:00 PM
A month from now - when I have the platform complete - I'll have to figure out a mast for it. Maybe fab up a tube, we'll see.

The Flash
01-13-2011, 10:41 AM
Allright - the floor reinforcement is in, if not yet faired. I decided to go easy, rather than light, so I used Baltek Mat. It sucks up resin like a sponge, so it's much heavier than foam core, but I didn't have to fire up the vacuum stuff so I saved hours in labor. I had some carbon fabric laying around so I used that to top it off. Floor is now nice and stiff. I rebuild the transom tonight and add a layer of fairing to the floor. Not going crazy with the fairing, as the floor will be covered with a nice surfboard foam.

aA
01-13-2011, 10:58 AM
Speaking of Moore's - If you have a newer one, don't send your kid to the Stockton Sail Camp with it. Don't ask me how I know this.

Also, if it has a bendy mast made from a beautiful length of aircraft grade spruce, your younger (lighter weight) kid can sail it without breaking the mast. You, however, cannot.

yep...our cab was cherry right up to sail camp. didn't come home as nice. but sail camp is worth it with the cab, with a moore i might be thinking differently

do your kids do ryc jr program bob? if so, what level?

BobJ
01-18-2011, 09:47 PM
I just saw these last two posts.

No, all four kids took lessons at Vallejo Yacht Club and enjoyed themselves, but eventually pursued other interests. The oldest is on her own and living in L.A., #2 (a son) got into HS basketball and still coaches a bit (he's the one who went to Stockton Sail Camp 3x), and swims, the younger two have been pushed totally into marching band by their musical, non-sailing mom. So I singlehand.

Had we done the RYC program as a family it might have turned out differently.

The Flash
01-24-2011, 08:56 PM
692693

Interior is painted - new reinforced floor is in.

I know, I know, too much effort for a 30 year old El Toro.

Anyone got some good rigging photos? I might try to sneak up to RYC for the mid-winters to snap some shots, but we're hosting a superbowl party and I don't think the wife will be amused.

Bottoms been primed - need to prime the foredeck tomorrow - and then 1st batch of color.

aA
01-24-2011, 09:38 PM
think there may be a few on my fb bud or i can stop by thursday night if you want

looks great

The Flash
01-24-2011, 09:57 PM
We'll be around - I'll check the FB page. I gotta get Davo to take some shots too - he re-rigged his kids and you know Davo. All done very nicely.

familysailor
01-24-2011, 10:37 PM
Take a look at Buzz's boat along with Gordie's and Fred Paxton's...... Amen's too, he has a Smith.

The Flash
01-25-2011, 09:01 AM
Yep - of course.

aA
01-27-2011, 01:10 PM
hey pops (hahahahaha)

you get the pictures and/or word from davo or should i cruise by tonight?

The Flash
01-27-2011, 01:19 PM
No need to come by tonight - not done painting yet(trying to shoot color for the deck tonight) - and I'm gonna get up to RYC to take some photos.

aA
01-27-2011, 01:21 PM
coolio

Buzz Light Beer
01-27-2011, 04:10 PM
692693

Interior is painted - new reinforced floor is in.

I know, I know, too much effort for a 30 year old El Toro.

Anyone got some good rigging photos? I might try to sneak up to RYC for the mid-winters to snap some shots, but we're hosting a superbowl party and I don't think the wife will be amused.

Bottoms been primed - need to prime the foredeck tomorrow - and then 1st batch of color.

Purdy! If I ever have kids, and they want their boat painted, they'll get a case of Krylon and some masking tape!

The Flash
01-27-2011, 08:50 PM
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Allright - color coat is on the foredeck. I've gotta work my technique a bit - but nothing a quick wetsand and polish won't take care of.

Painting the bottom is gonna be a big deal....

Charlie Tuna
02-02-2011, 01:13 PM
So that's a 30 year old hull? What's the going price on those anymore?

The Flash
02-02-2011, 05:09 PM
$800

Darn things really hold value.

The Flash
03-04-2011, 10:58 AM
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Just about done. Glue down the foam, install a couple cleats for the vang, get some pretty neon line for the mainsheet and vang (girls boat after all). Launch day tomorrow.

Hopefully I have some photos of smiling girls....

familysailor
03-04-2011, 06:50 PM
Yikes! Looks like a classic Hot Rod. Reminds my of cruising Van Nuys Blvd. in the 60's. Beach Boys blasting on the Muntz four track stereo!
You put in an iPod port and speakers, right?

Photoboy
03-06-2011, 09:41 PM
http://pressure-drop.us/imagehost/images/03403295280926308164.jpg

http://pressure-drop.us/imagehost/images/50556015710124493658.jpg

http://pressure-drop.us/imagehost/images/66321362264550929385.jpg

Chicks dig the shiny boats....

The Flash
03-06-2011, 10:18 PM
Thanks man!

hobot
03-07-2011, 12:58 PM
How soon before she boots you outta the boat?

The Flash
03-07-2011, 01:29 PM
This one has to wait a bit - not long though on days like this. The older one, she's about to solo. Maybe this weekend.

The Flash
03-07-2011, 01:31 PM
Funny story - gassing up the volvo on the way to the club, with the 'toro on the lid, guy gassing next to me starts commenting on it - and I can't help but comment on his just done '57 chevy. Similar colors!

His job was a tad bigger than mine....