View Full Version : What Was It?

PD Staff
01-11-2011, 04:37 PM
We stumbled upon these recently. A piece of history which became a 25 ton lawn ornament.

1st to define her wins their choice: A Pressure Drop Tee Shirt, A 2011 PD Calendar or
a jar of Ballard Sailors Pickled Herring.






01-11-2011, 04:43 PM
Looks like the remains of Australia II to me.

I hope I'm wrong, as Australia II should be in a frigging museum, not a scrap yard.

01-11-2011, 04:52 PM
Stars and Stripes 87

01-11-2011, 04:55 PM
Or Stars and Stripes 86..... or Stars and Stripes 85.... It's got to be a 12 of that vintage. Few other boats look like they've had too much beer.

Old Codger
01-11-2011, 05:17 PM
That last photo should be giving away the answer and I know I've seen it... Damn, this getting older sucks.

01-11-2011, 05:22 PM
damnit...i know this and didn't even have to cheat. but i will be a nice guy and let someone else have the shwag

01-11-2011, 05:33 PM
Looks like the remains of Australia II to me.

I hope I'm wrong, as Australia II should be in a frigging museum, not a scrap yard.

I believe KA-6 IS in a museum in Fremantle. She (Aus II) was the first with a wing keel but it didn't look like that.

01-11-2011, 06:09 PM
I believe there is a buoy named in honor of its skipper?

01-11-2011, 06:17 PM
I'm going to guess ITA-1, the first Il Moro deVenezia. Makes sense as to disposition but I have no idea if it had a wing keel.

01-11-2011, 06:21 PM
sorry bob, that is incorrect

Ballard Sailor
01-11-2011, 06:40 PM
#85 Eight ball?

01-11-2011, 06:55 PM
Okay, one more. How about Magic out of Long Beach (or NHYC)? She had a wing keel.

Jack Fate
01-11-2011, 07:06 PM
I'll take a stab.... America II...or maybe it was Kolius's boat....wtf was her name?

01-11-2011, 07:07 PM
sorry guys, still incorrect

Ballard Sailor
01-11-2011, 07:09 PM
Really, it's not Eight ball?

Jack Fate
01-11-2011, 07:12 PM

01-11-2011, 07:16 PM
yer killing me bs and no ag

designer liked little and big boats alike. her sister ship saw more fame

Jack Fate
01-11-2011, 07:24 PM

Jack Fate
01-11-2011, 07:27 PM
Send the swag to
c/o UK-Halsey Sailmakers
175 City Island Ave.
City Island, NY 10464

01-11-2011, 07:35 PM
max - we need a ruling

Jack Fate
01-11-2011, 07:43 PM
You want it spelled out? USA-49 named USA. Gary Mull design built by Stephens Bros.

Oddly enough, the picture of #49 was my 49th post....that's gotta count for something.

01-11-2011, 08:00 PM
Well then:


Sanity Check
01-11-2011, 08:01 PM
Whoa - indeed that keel profile screams Gary Mull.

01-11-2011, 08:21 PM
not asking for it to spelled out, i thought it was 47 and 49 was the geek

Jack Fate
01-11-2011, 08:23 PM
Ahhh, i thought you wanted it in writing.....
Wasn't the geek like #61?

PD Staff
01-11-2011, 08:27 PM
AG is correct!

" US49 was the trial-horse, or training prototype, but in the big money game of the Cup a team does not just have one boat. Gary Mull decided to make a new interpretation of the 12 Meter Rule and designed what became known as US61 or as she was affectionately dubbed, "The Geek". The Geek disposed of the winged keel and replaced it with a slender torpedo shaped bulb, much like today's IACC boats. Another radical feature of the Geek was a canard, forward rudder. One can imagine how this could enable some very fast turning and even some spooky sideways movement. However, it can also be like throwing and arrow backwards. Super-sonic jet airplanes with similar forward vertical stabilizers have a computer to control the pitch of these wings. At times the boat displayed incredible speed and agility, but she was also rather squirrely. In the end, Blackaller said that he felt that he really hadn't had enough time to get used to the Geek before racing."

Proudly built in Stockton California, the unknown mecca of AC Technology!

What does AG desire, the Herring, Calendar or a PD Shirt?

Ballard Sailor
01-11-2011, 08:35 PM
Shit, I really thought it was 85.

Buzz Light Beer
01-11-2011, 08:42 PM
They named a boat after my sisters boy friend?

01-11-2011, 11:40 PM
Blackaller's boat before the Geek...thats all I got.

Voodoo Doll
01-12-2011, 12:07 AM
12 Metre USA-49 (designed by the late Gary Mull and built by the Stephens Bros.)

Voodoo Doll
01-12-2011, 12:08 AM
Damn.............too late.

Surf City Racing
01-12-2011, 10:10 AM
That's a lot of beer cans!

IOR Geezer
01-12-2011, 10:19 AM
They don't make keels like that anymore!

01-12-2011, 01:14 PM
It is USA #49 designer: G. Mull and P. Kaiko design #181
There is a whole web page on it that I found.

Edit: Nevermind didn't realize it had been pointed out already, should learn to read more thoroughly!!!

Ballard Sailor
01-13-2011, 04:09 PM
better make your choice, I only got one bottle left.

Buzz Light Beer
01-13-2011, 04:12 PM
One bottle of what? Is Seattle on prohibition?

Ballard Sailor
01-13-2011, 04:13 PM
pickled Herring

Buzz Light Beer
01-13-2011, 04:39 PM
Got any Absynthe?