View Full Version : What Is it?

Ballard Sailor
01-13-2011, 04:02 PM
Here is one for you...for those of you here that have worked on this, give people a chance to guess....







01-13-2011, 04:16 PM
Jim Lee

Single Hander
01-13-2011, 04:46 PM
It's 1:20 according to the clock.

Do you have any completed project photos?

01-13-2011, 05:07 PM
I think the internal hull needs more bulkheads!

01-13-2011, 05:16 PM
Left Coast Dart otherwise a redone B25.
Maybe some pics of the sprit they decided to add to it?

Angry Dolphin
01-13-2011, 05:28 PM

a boat on life support?

Voodoo Doll
01-13-2011, 08:21 PM
The new Columbia 32.

-Voodoo D.

Ballard Sailor
01-13-2011, 08:59 PM
I figured a local would get it...





I believe that Betts is still working on the sprit thingy...

Ballard Sailor
01-13-2011, 09:08 PM

and it's getting close...

Ballard Sailor
01-13-2011, 09:09 PM

a boat on life support?

Maybe this will help explain


Ballard Sailor
01-13-2011, 09:12 PM

01-13-2011, 09:54 PM
I'm alway impressed by good vacuum jobs! But how do they keep the bag material from sticking to the resin with all those bumps and crevices?

01-14-2011, 12:16 AM
With all the bitching about the industry hurting it still seems like a new kinda boat comes out every month. Confusing.

01-14-2011, 03:11 PM
Labor is cheap in these down times.

I just had to reduce my price on my craiglist ad for gigolo and increase size limits.

I am still batting from the right side of the plate, thanks for your concern.

01-14-2011, 03:56 PM
Wow, another FT10?! Where's BIAM when you need him....lol

01-14-2011, 04:20 PM
This ones American made....maybe he's waiting for the teething problems to show first.

01-14-2011, 04:21 PM
Those Darts are turning out nice. I like the sprit as well. May have to drive up to Anacortes and visit Jim and the shop this summer.

jim lee
01-14-2011, 05:49 PM
Wow! Hello everyone I just found this thread. I didn't even know this board exsisted. Thanks for the great PR!

As for the infusion question above, or on the last page? You keep the bag, plumbing etc. from sticking to the part by first putting down a layer of peelply over everything. We learned this the hard way on early parts when we had to grind off plumbing etc. Actually the bag won't stick, but without the peel ply its a mess.

The sprit will be all completed by the boat show. There's a good chance it'll be done monday. Mr Betts & crew are putting on the final shine today.

-jim lee

01-15-2011, 01:01 AM
That thing looks quick!

Ballard Sailor
01-15-2011, 10:12 AM
What's the story on it being a B25. Is it using the old molds or just seems similar?

jim lee
01-15-2011, 02:02 PM
What happened was..

I wanted to restart the B25 as a island hopping machine. We live on an island, I thought it would be fun. Through a really freaky twist I Met up with Leif Beiley. We talked and what came out of it was that the B25 is a 20 year old design. The tooling was either gone or shot. Lets come up with something completely new of a more modern design.

Another factor in all of this was that, I like race boats and hate what race boat designers typically come up with for cruising boats. (Our family RV is a J/35) So, although I wanted an island hopper, what we decided on was a 26 foot racer that I could adapt for my purposes. Because of this, hull #1 has a huge boom tent, Jetboil cooker, LED cabin lights, built in iPod stereo system and no sprit.

In the end, the only things that cross over from the original B25 are.. The rudder was originally designed for the B25 but never produced. The keel chord, I think is the same. Although our keel is longer and has a bulb. The hull is completely different. This one was optimized using a sailing simulator and went directly from CAD to a machined plug. The deck was mostly Leif's. The cockpit and cabin house is a blend of Leif and myself. Me hacking stuff and Leif blending things to look right.

That's how the Dart and the B25 are related.

-jim lee

01-15-2011, 05:25 PM
That's just 26 feet? Looks a lot longer. I don't know much about the b25. Seemed like it was an updated and faster j24. I was joking earlier about the ft10 comment but it does look nice and I've spent a lot time on the bow of an ft10 hauling in 1100 sqft of kite while the driver was heading up to round the mark making my job impossible. Anyways, Is the intent here to market another OD boat? Sorry, just not familiar with everyone who is building boats for themselves or as a business to sell to to others. Lots of both are out there.

Ballard Sailor
01-15-2011, 06:02 PM
Thanks for the story Jim, great to learn the history of a design. Cool boat, what's the current pricing on this?