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10-09-2013, 01:24 PM

Diggin some up...hang tight!

10-09-2013, 03:28 PM
Everyone who cares about the oldest trophy in professional sport wants to know, whats next? Will the Cup stay in "Mean Old Frisco" or will Larry's team pull stakes and seek better offers.

Here's what we have learned thus far.

1) San Francisco had 90 days to make their pitch, and according to SF Port Spokeswoman Renee-Dunn Martin, "High level negotiations are going on right now between multiple parties," including SF Port Staff, The Mayors Office, The conglomeration which is Oracle Racing, ACEA, ACRM, which we shall just call Octopi San Fran, (Mr Ellison's Holding Corporation is Octopus Holdings LLC, so we will work with that) The Warriors, The Local Unions are believe to be involved.

When asked what could or would be available facility wise in 2016-2017 Mrs Dunn-Martin indicated that "Nothings off the table". Which lead to more direct questions.

What about Pier 27-29? "The phase 2 portion of construction on Pier 27 -29 begins in November. The piers should be fully operational for the cruise industry vendors by Fall 2014" The Piers worked well within the confines of this cycle of the America's Cup, but could they get pressed into service for the next cycle? "It's quite possible in some capacity, especially the North West Plaza. It's all being negotiated"

Would not the Cruise Ships control the pier? Again, everything is up for negotiation and the possibility of the cruise ships using other piers for loading and unloading during the
height of any Louis Vuitton or AC events is possible.

Okay then, how about Piers 30-32? Won't the Warriors be playing basketball in their new
stadium then? Again Mrs Dunn Martin was not committed to certainty with that project. apparently the proposed Warriors Arena is still under negotiation, and with all things San Francisco, due to lengthy delays in progress. It's still feasible the crumbling pier's could still be available for a temporary hosting position in 2016-2017.

Pier 80? " The lease with "Octopi SF" ends at the end of the year. Octopi SF's Lease at Piers 23 and 19 terminate at end of this month and the remaining gear and offices will be transported to Pier 80 for short term. In case you did not know, the offices located on Piers 23 were all built in shipping containers, and can be relocated and redeployed easily.
Pier 80 can host those offices and skeleton crew for short term without much pain.

If Octopi SF opts to renew a lease on Pier 80, one would expect all their assets would stay there until other options open up.

One option could be Alameda's Seaport Lagoon.

According to sources close to the negotiation process between the City of Alameda,
Artemis Racing, and sailing interests, planning and negotiation continues. The Waterfront Town Center proposed as the cornerstone of the redevelopment plans at Alameda Point



See Draft Plans (http://alamedaca.gov/alameda-point/current-draft-documents)

The city council is scheduled to finalize their vote on the projects approval next month. There is a massive amount of infrastructure work to be done earthwise with
global warming/projected sea rise inundation concerns, drainage, earthquake and tsunami concerns. And while the city does not want to delay progress on the redevelopment process that has been nearly 2 decades in the making, there is a possibility of using the "Taxi Way" along the lagoons eastern edge as a host camp
for syndicates, and putting some of the long term teams into some of the vacated buildings near the lagoon.

Artemis Racing was 1st to occupy one of the available hangars from the city. While it
had adequate space for the team, the facility is circa 1940's, complete with seismic concerns, standard issue asbestos and lead in abundance, the mitigation of these hazards will need to be dealt with before any long term leases. The space Artemis is currently occupying has been offered up for a longer term, more expensive lease. Artemis themselves are looking at other potential available buildings for the short term for their primary base, the old Nelson's being a serious contender.

It leaves a lot to ponder.

And What About Lanai? (http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Honolulu-Magazine/August-2013/An-Inside-Look-at-Larry-Ellisons-Lanai/)

10-09-2013, 04:17 PM
...and in other cup related news...and this is rumor, and nothing but rumor, but it has
come from several sources supposedly in the inner circle, but repeat at this point
just a rumor:

Sources say that Russell Coutts was unhappy that Tom Ehman and Iain Murray worked together
to get Hamilton Island YC the position to be Challenger of Record.

Supposedly, Mr. Ehman was relieved of his duties as a consequence, by Mr Coutts.

Unclear if Iain Murray is effected in anyway however it is also unclear If Mr. Murray has connections
with Challenger of Record (Hamilton Island YC) if that effects standings of being an impartial head committee
member as part of the ACRM. It may well be that one stressful cycle of managing the America's Cup is more than enough!

Again, it's an unconfirmed rumor...If it's incorrect, our apologies in advance...but it's come from various sources and tem seem consistent...

10-09-2013, 05:20 PM
Great reporting PB!

How soon until you have more Cup Dirt to spill?

IOR Geezer
10-09-2013, 09:09 PM
Thanks for keeping us up to date!

Buzz Light Beer
10-10-2013, 09:16 AM
Looks like Alameda has plans for the Seaplane Lagoon, why would they want to delay that?

10-10-2013, 09:46 AM
Looks like Alameda has plans for the Seaplane Lagoon, why would they want to delay that?

Not sure they would, am told that things are still fluid at this point. One of the benefits of having teams based in Alameda is the large
quotient of team families that move in. Artemis's families came in and set up on the island, you have extra revenue from housing, dining,
schools, material purchases etc. Plus the schools get an influx of children from out of the country which really helps open the eyes of the
other children attending. Artemis team members were able to commute by bicycle, its flat and not overly dangerous like other area in the Bay Area.

So the economics, of just one more Cup cycle may offset a 3-4 year delay in the construction of the Seaplane Lagoon Town Center.


Octopi SF might ats look at this property, just west of the RYC. It's rumored to have been on the market for some time.

10-10-2013, 09:59 AM
i'd like to see ALL teams in one spot and that plan above would help that. but for people like me and with pier 30-32 inaccessible it's hard to photograph anything from the west side of the bay. i still dont think 35th will be in SF; the experience with the jerks at the SF board of supervisors gives me the chills

10-10-2013, 10:37 AM
Not sure they would, am told that things are still fluid at this point. One of the benefits of having teams based in Alameda is the large
quotient of team families that move in. Artemis's families came in and set up on the island, you have extra revenue from housing, dining,
schools, material purchases etc. Plus the schools get an influx of children from out of the country which really helps open the eyes of the
other children attending. Artemis team members were able to commute by bicycle, its flat and not overly dangerous like other area in the Bay Area.

So the economics, of just one more Cup cycle may offset a 3-4 year delay in the construction of the Seaplane Lagoon Town Center.


Octopi SF might ats look at this property, just west of the RYC. It's rumored to have been on the market for some time.

That's interesting. I thought the site belonged to Toll Brothers and they'd planned a poop-load of condo's for that site. Also rumored that they were going to close access to the tunnel for anyone beyond their development like RYC, Brickyard, existing condos and residents etc. Additional rumor was to create an ordinance to limit activities that might create traffic or noise after 9 PM or thereabouts. So much for regattas and parties with funhogs lingering after dark....

Hope it goes to someone with a little more tolerant views of pre-existing clubs, businesses, residents.

10-10-2013, 10:59 AM

Tom Butt (http://www.tombutt.com/forum/2006/060722.htm) has a few choice words about that!

....might make it an easier acquisition?

Donut Town
10-10-2013, 11:04 AM
That area is called Terminal 1, it is the oldest terminal facility in Richmond (1909). Toll Bro's bid on it several years ago and entered into a sale agreement with the city, but the project ultimately was terminated, and Toll Bros left town. Locals not happy w/design, plus some issues w/CEQA. By the time they got approved re-designs and finalized CEQA, market imploded and Toll Bros moved on. Property's been vacant for some time, but an RFP opened up in July 2012. So far 3 responses and the RFP period now closed. By terms of settlement agreement w/Toll Brothers on vacating their land disposition agreement, whoever gets the property and plans to build condos - must comply w/the design guidelines and form guidelines from the previous round. The property had been offered up on an interim basis to ACEA and various teams for the 34th AC cycle. I don't think it will be available for the 35th cycle, although there are other shorefront areas in Richmond which would be useful and attractive for use by whoever will be running the 35th AC gig. Plenty of room to consolidate all teams in one location, lots of housing - and at decent prices. Both Alameda and Richmond have their attractions and drawbacks. Alameda has a vibrant center and unique cultural flavor, but you have to deal w/the tube and then Bay Bridge to get to SF (unless ACEA put in ferry service....). Richmond has good access, commute, and pricing, but it's ... Richmond. Perhaps attitudes have and/or will change in ACEA/the Defender - but in the last cycle they took a dim view of 'soiling' themselves with any contact w/the East Bay - that could have been a function of labor agreements set up w/City of SF, and a keen desire to localize as much (taxable) revenue as possible only in SF so that the hosting no's would look good. With a general re-think of the event going on, perhaps they'll re-consider.

I should add:

None of the 3 proposals received for Terminal 1 are particularly compelling and the City is not obligated to accept any of them.

I got burned out working on this project the last time. A couple hundred hours, resources consumed, no pay - free marketing for the City. Someone else can pick up the mantle.

10-10-2013, 11:17 AM
You suppose the City of Richmond would be interested in a short term lease?

Housing in Richmond was a sticking point, at least in the area's that are safe...

Donut Town
10-10-2013, 11:51 AM
You suppose the City of Richmond would be interested in a short term lease?

Housing in Richmond was a sticking point, at least in the area's that are safe...

Why was housing a sticking point? There were crate loads of it available and we offered to do full team bundles.

10-10-2013, 01:37 PM
If they truly want to bring sailing to the masses I've got the answer: Red Rock!

Make AC35 survivor style. Make all the teams stay on red rock for the duration of the regatta. Release some pigs, hide some supplies like hydraulic fluid or matches. Have challenges for things like duct tape or west systems. Last team able to go out and complete the course wins!

10-10-2013, 01:47 PM
Why was housing a sticking point? There were crate loads of it available and we offered to do full team bundles.

The teams have their families with them, and if they don't have to commute long distances, they can concentrate on the campaigns.

Donut Town
10-10-2013, 06:19 PM
The teams have their families with them, and if they don't have to commute long distances, they can concentrate on the campaigns.
We don't have enough data points with only four teams total competing to get a good understanding between the trade off between commuting to SF city front by car or boat posse from affordable communities, vs. paying the rent piper in SF.
The bellwether in this would be Artemis. Enough local knowledge to want to NOT be based in the City. They were more than willing to do the waterborne commute.
For LR and ETNZ, that desire to be close to where sailing would launch from and public spectator facilities drove their decisions to be city side. But they learned the hard way that it cost quite a bit. ETNZ was bunched up near P30/32, but most didn't have cars, and didn't realize that it wasn't all that family friendly. Nearest Safeway? kids recreation center?

I like the idea of "Survivor - Red Rock" though. Might be crowded with all the pigs and teams. Trivia: Ellison considered buying it at one time. It's fairly undevelopable. Try to reckon where you'd plop a 6K sq ft mini manse on her? He gave up after wading through the incongruent bureaucracy of the 3 counties that transect the rock.

IOR Geezer
10-10-2013, 08:50 PM
Whats the vagrancy rate in San Rafael these days?

10-14-2013, 11:09 AM
ORACLE TEAM USA, winner of the 34th America’s Cup, and Boeing [NYSE: BA] are collaborating to recycle 7,000 pounds (about 3,175 kilograms) of carbon fiber of USA-71, a yacht built for the America’s Cup campaign in 2003. The hull and mast of the racing yacht will be processed and repurposed, a first-of-its-kind effort for what will likely be the largest carbon structure ever recycled.

ORACLE TEAM USA and Boeing, working with research partners, will utilize a technique developed to recycle composite materials from Boeing’s 787 Dreamliner, which is 50 percent composite by weight and 20 percent more fuel-efficient than similarly sized aircraft. Composite materials allow a lighter, simpler structure, which increases efficiency, and do not fatigue or corrode. In yachts, composite construction also provides the ability to develop a lighter vessel that is stronger and stiffer at the same time.

"The introduction of composites in yacht construction was a major step in our sport. The materials and processes have continued to evolve, allowing us to build the high-tech, high-speed AC72 catamarans raced in this year's America's Cup," said Chris Sitzenstock, ORACLE TEAM USA logistics. "Now, we have the ability to work with Boeing to take the next steps in composite recycling, and to help reduce our environmental footprint. We will also look to recycle carbon components remaining from the build of our yachts."

“Boeing leads the commercial aviation industry in increasing the use and recycling of composites to improve aircraft fuel efficiency and reduce greenhouse gas emissions,” said Billy Glover, Boeing Commercial Airplanes vice president of market strategy. “We are very pleased now to work with ORACLE TEAM USA, which transformed the science of sailing to win the America’s Cup, to advance sustainability and the science of composite recycling.”

Boeing and ORACLE TEAM USA will work with the University of Nottingham in the United Kingdom and MIT-RCF, a South Carolina company focused on repurposing carbon fiber components. USA-71’s hull will be cut into 4-foot sections and the mast will be chopped into manageable pieces before it is processed; about 75 percent of the recycled composites will come from the hull and the remaining 25 percent from the mast.

Through these processes, Boeing and ORACLE TEAM USA expect to gather data about the mechanical properties, costs and time flows to recycle sailing-grade composite materials in comparison to aerospace-grade and automobile-grade composites. The companies have not determined the post-recycling use of the yacht’s carbon fiber, but potential end uses include consumer and industrial products.

USA-71 facts:

Launched in June 2002
First America's Cup Class yacht built by ORACLE TEAM USA for training during the 2003 campaign
Boat was a corporate symbol in front of Oracle Corp. headquarters for 6 years
Total hull weight: 2.5 tons
Weight of composites to be recycled: 7,000 lbs. (about 3,175 kg)
Length: 25 meters (120 feet)
Width: 3.8 meters (12 feet)
Height of the mast: 32 meters (105 feet)
Weight of the bulb: 19 tons
Sail surface area: 325 m² upwind, 750 m² downwind

Tom Mc
10-14-2013, 11:34 AM
Length: 25 meters (120 feet) ?

Charlie Tuna
10-14-2013, 12:21 PM
It's a euro conversion thing.

10-21-2013, 08:37 AM
Emirates Team New Zealand today welcomed an interim Government investment of $5 million towards the team’s challenge for the 35th America’s Cup.

Economic Development Minister Steven Joyce said the bridging funding would enable the team to retain designers, sailors, support crew and administration for the next challenge.

Managing director Grant Dalton said the team was working on the challenge almost from the last race day in San Francisco. “The extent of the enthusiastic reception when we arrived back in New Zealand was both unexpected and encouraging and an incentive to challenge again.

“We have been talking informally to existing and potential sponsors. We will begin to develop a business plan and sponsorship proposals so that we can start calling on them from next month.”

He said the team, and sponsors, looked forward to the announcement of the rules for the 35th America’s Cup early in the New Year.

“Decisions by Oracle on venue, dates and class of yacht are fundamental to the way ahead.”

Prince of Whales
10-21-2013, 12:08 PM
Great news!

10-21-2013, 04:15 PM
VERY good news!

10-22-2013, 11:00 AM
if anyone wants to donate to ETNZ there's a website for that plus they are selling books with comments based on the Letter to ETNZ from Team NZ (our name's on the boat)

10-22-2013, 04:09 PM
if anyone wants to donate to ETNZ there's a website for that plus they are selling books with comments based on the Letter to ETNZ from Team NZ (our name's on the boat)


$165,322.39 NZD raised thus far!

10-24-2013, 04:44 PM
dat is VERY refreshing to hear!! it's not a lot but every little bit helps. orig post i didnt post the book link cuz been having problems

here's a USA version http://www.blurb.com/b/4684112-our-name-is-on-the-boat

UK http://www.blurb.co.uk/b/4684112-our-name-is-on-the-boat

10-24-2013, 04:51 PM
when i went to the website just now they totaled up a bit more: NZD$ 165,778.15 and remember: EVERY BIT HELPS! please repost the link(s). dont feel good just plan-out donating? want something in return? get the book. thanks any and all donating!!! it's for a GREAT cause - the America's Cup would be a sad place without Team New Zealand!!

10-24-2013, 04:53 PM
dam PB; you look GOOD in that red shirt! you slimmed down too - that's great but now you won't float as well :)

11-04-2013, 10:55 AM
(http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/9361260/Grant-Dalton-embarks-on-fundraising-swing) Reports Dalton has embarked on a fund raising quest...

Team New Zealand boss Grant Dalton is encouraged by initial responses from his syndicate's major sponsors as he sets off on a fundraising drive to launch another America's Cup challenge.

Dalton heads to Europe and the United States next week for meetings that will be crucial to the future of the syndicate and another tilt at the Auld Mug.

It appears the massive exposure Team New Zealand got in their enthralling tussle with cup holders Oracle and the subsequent outpourings of goodwill, haven't been lost on the companies that have been major backers.

Dalton says his energy levels are ramping up and he has been busy organising his overseas trip.

Contact with established sponsors had produced positive responses. They have first rights over renewing deals and are Dalton's immediate targets.

"I've been getting great response offshore for meetings," Dalton said, delighted to be able to get a foot in the door again to push the Kiwi cause.

Before he leaves, Dalton intends meeting controversial internet entrepreneur Kim Dotcom.

Dotcom cheekily said he would help fund another campaign in the immediate aftermath to the gut-wrenching loss to Oracle in San Francisco. He reiterated that last weekend, saying he was genuine about wanting to be involved, believing his company could offer valuable technology to enhance boat performance, as well as "a couple of million [dollars]" in funding.

Taking on Oracle's billionaire backer and technology guru Larry Ellison in an "intellectual challenge" clearly appeals to the larger than life German.

Dalton has cleared the meeting with the Government given the continued reliance on public money and John Key's tense relationship with Dotcom.

"We'll have a discussion and see where it goes," Dalton said of sitting around a table with Dotcom, emphasising a need for transparency through this process.

Clinging to a $5 million government grant to act as bridging finance to keep the syndicate alive until May, Dalton said the first positive effects of that handout were being felt.

The "critical" Team New Zealand design people were being locked in first and discussions were opening with the sailing crew.

The funding is to ensure key personnel are retained rather than poached by a growing number of rival syndicates who are keen on being involved in the next cup after seeing the success of the final in San Francisco.

At this stage entries from Australia, Sweden, Italy and Britain all look likely to materialise and the pressure for design and sailing expertise is increasing.

- © Fairfax NZ News

Angry Dolphin
11-04-2013, 01:11 PM
Kim Dotcom, now there's an unsavory character I would want to be associated with? Who's next, Kim Jong Un?

Honey Badger
11-04-2013, 03:14 PM
Did the Saudi's run out of cash?

11-07-2013, 05:12 PM
With existing and potential America’s Cup teams working in the background to secure sailors, designers and shore crew for the 35th America’s Cup, efforts are also being made to forge the Rules for the next event.

The Protocol for the 35th America’s Cup must be agreed between the defender and the challenger of record and will detail the timing, location, format, type of boat and other rules for the event.

Russell Coutts, the CEO of ORACLE TEAM USA, has been working on all of the above.

“There are a lot of pieces to put together when it comes to translating the various ideas for the next America’s Cup into concrete rules,” Coutts said.

“The main pillars are the teams, the partners, the broadcasters and the venue and each of these influence the other.

“One aspect we’re working very hard on is cost reduction,” he continued. “If we can reduce costs, we will increase the number of the teams, which will have a positive impact on all aspects of the competition.”

Coutts noted the number of people required to staff each team is the biggest factor to consider for reducing costs.

“What we saw this summer was some spectacular racing. Very few people will disagree with that,” Coutts said. “The question is how to build on that result for less money.

“The boats will likely be smaller than 72-feet with some one-design components, which will reduce the number of sailors and designers.


“We believe the competition still needs to remain a test of sailing, design and boat building talent so we are carefully evaluating reductions in each category.”

Meetings have already taken place with city officials in San Francisco, which is the front-runner as the venue for the America’s Cup Final. Those discussions are expected to continue through the end of the year.

“There is a lot more work to do,” Coutts concluded. “But we’ve done a lot of the heavy lifting already in making the major transformations from the past America’s Cup. Now we’re looking to make the right adjustments such that the 35th America’s Cup is even better.”


11-11-2013, 12:12 PM

Rumor of Dogzilla's possible immersion seem unfounded. A crane near her last week and ACRM boats in the water sparked speculation
from the "wagging tongue association" (wta) on the possible relocation beginning.

A scouting mission this weekend to Pier 80 revealed little, aside from what seems to be the hauling of ACRM boats onto the pier for winterization.
One possible thought is that while the crane was there, why not reset the massive trimaran on her stands so they could paint the bottom?


The footprint of the compound has been compressed quite extensively...this should start the wta crew going...if the idea is to reduce
the footprint...what is Shadow doing there?

Prince of Whales
11-11-2013, 01:55 PM
Stoneberg getting Shadow fitted with foils and a wing?

11-12-2013, 10:17 AM
HA!!!! only the Shadow knows!!!

Charlie Tuna
11-13-2013, 10:00 AM
I read somewhere that Shadow was going to sire a litter with Dogzilla.
They expect anywhere between 8-12 offspring, in the 55-60 foot range.
The trimarans they will sell to the French and the cats will be raised and trained on SF Bay.

The crane is there to lift Shadow into rutting position when Dogzilla goes into heat.

11-14-2013, 11:05 AM

Roger McMillian of www.mysailing.com.au (http://www.mysailing.com.au/news/exclusive-tom-slingsby-re-signs-with-oracle-team-usa-for-the-next-america-s-cup) has reported that Tom Slingsby will reamin with Oracle Team USA for the next cycle

EXCLUSIVE: Tom Slingsby re-signs with Oracle Team USA for the next America’s Cup
14 Nov 2013
Tom Slingsby has an impressive CV for a man not yet 30-years-old. Eight world championships, an Olympic gold medal and an America’s Cup victory ensure he is in high demand at all levels of sailing.

But today he confirmed that he is “off the market” as far as the next America’s Cup is concerned.

The announcement is sure to be greeted with disappointment by the Oatley family, who are putting together an Australian challenge for the 35th Match. Slingsby was undoubtedly one of the first sailors they contacted after being announced as the Challenger of Record for the 35th Match.

But while Australians may be disappointed that one of their 2012 Olympic heroes won’t be lining up in green and gold, the logic behind Slingsby’s decision to stay with Oracle can’t be faulted.

With more teams expected to challenge next time the Cup is contested, no-one sailing for any challenger is guaranteed a spot in the 35th Match – they will first have to beat all the other challengers in a long and arduous Louis Vuitton series. The only thing known for sure about the 35th Match is that Oracle Team USA will be in it.

“We’re the defenders,” Singsby said in an exclusive interview with Mysailing. “That means I’m guaranteed to be in another America’s Cup match – to have another chance at winning another America’s Cup.

“Oracle run a really good program, they’ve got a great design team and great sailors and I’m lucky to be a part of it,” he added.

Both Slingsby and Oracle skipper Jimmy Spithill have expressed a desire to sail for Australia in the America’s Cup at some stage in their careers. But both know that the time is not yet right.

Australia has been out of the Cup since 2000 and the new team is a big gamble – too big a gamble for a professional sailor to stake his reputation on.

During the 34th America’s Cup in San Francisco, Spithill was asked how it felt to be an Australian sailing for the USA and he replied, “Welcome to the brave new world of sailing, Brother!” He explained that he and the other “foreigners” in Team USA were professional sportsmen, just like Formula One racing drivers. They had an obligation to themselves and their families to make the best deal they could.

Although Slingsby is a died-in-the-wool Australian at heart, the USA does in fact have a claim on him. His mother Mavis is an American citizen and Tom carries both Australian and American passports.

If he was sailing at another Olympics it would be for Australia, but today he announced a break from small boat sailing.

Yachting Australia was hoping that Slingsby would switch to the Finn class for Rio, as he is now too heavy for the Laser in which he won his gold medal at Weymouth in 2012, but an ideal weight for the Finn in the light airs expected in Brazil.

“I told YA today that I’m taking a break from Olympic sailing to concentrate on my America’s Cup career,” he said. “The situation could change, but at this stage I really want to make the most of the opportunities Oracle has given me.”

- Roger McMillan

11-18-2013, 04:08 PM
Peter Hegarty of the Bay Area News Group just released this article:

ALAMEDA -- The city received more than $550,000 in rent from the America's Cup sailing teams based at Alameda Point, and city officials should be ready to build on that success if the race returns to San Francisco Bay, the City Council will hear Tuesday.

Sweden's Artemis Racing team set up at a former aircraft hanger in May last year, while Italy's Luna Rossa Challenge has occupied an adjacent building for the past seven months.

"The presence of the Artemis team in particular has had a ripple effect in the local economy," Debbie Potter, the city's interim community development director, said in a background report for the council. "The Artemis team has contracted with many Alameda businesses for local hotel accommodations, gym facilities, daily catering, custodial services and marine and building supplies."

During the race, about 70 Artemis team members and their families moved to Alameda and rented homes and apartments, which also helped boost the local economy, Potter said.

The city received $399,215 from the Artemis team for the use of the 110,561-square-foot former hanger and access to the shoreline, where the team installed a floating dock and set up a temporary crane for their boats.

Luna Rossa paid $155,000 for the use of a 65,400-square-foot former hangar, city officials said.

Artemis represented the Royal Swedish Yacht Club and Luna Rossa, or "red moon" in Italian, represented the Circolo della Vela Sicilia Yacht Club.

Oracle Team USA triumphed in the contest, beating out Emirates Team New Zealand in a stunning comeback to capture the 162-year-old trophy in September.

On Tuesday, the council will hear from an ad hoc committee it created in June 2011 to identify ways that the city could benefit from the sailing race, such as through strengthening Alameda's reputation as a maritime community and improving its appeal as a tourist destination.

Along with securing the two sailing teams, the committee organized an event with Artemis CEO Paul Cayard at the Alameda Theatre & Cineplex that drew 700 people; created the AlamedaWaterfront.com website; and helped launch the Alameda Community Sailing Center, a nonprofit aimed at promoting sailing among families and young people.

Now that the 34th America's Cup is over, the committee is urging the council to take steps to build on what it has accomplished, especially if the race returns to San Francisco Bay.

The decision on where the next race will take place is expected within about six months, Potter said, and the committee hopes to continue meeting so as to be ready in the event that it will be local.

The committee also recommends that city officials send a letter to Oracle Team USA, offering to provide a working waterfront with industrial capacity to support future teams.

Other recommendations include preserving and promoting the Seaplane Lagoon -- the area at Alameda Point where Artemis and Luna Rossa were based -- and to consider supporting or hosting other major sailing events.


Charlie Tuna
11-19-2013, 11:50 AM

Spithill weighing free agency?

11-20-2013, 02:33 PM
Iain Percy talks to VSail.info about Artemis Racing, the RC44′s and, of course, the America’s Cup

Full Interview (http://www.vsail.info/2013/11/20/iain-percy-talks-to-vsail-info-about-artemis-racing-the-rc44s-and-of-course-the-americas-cup/)

VSail.info: What is the next small boat you will sail now? The Moth?

Iain Percy: I wanted to sail a Moth and I asked my friend Adam May who works for Artemis Racing. He said I wasn’t allowed to sail it because I was too fat and I was going to break it. We are trying to find a solution to that with a different boat. We will do a lot of foiling in-house and that’s, obviously, the future of the America’s Cup. You see it everywhere, it is becoming the future of sailing as well. It is a real step change, it’s a cool feeling and it’s incredibly efficient.
However, the focus now for myself and Artemis Racing is to build a strong team, capable of winning and dominating the America’s Cup arena. That’s our goal, that’s Torbjörn’s goal. Artemis went through some very tough times last year and some real highs when we managed to race against all the odds. It’s time now to show we are a winning team, a serious, professional team that is going to win the next America’s Cup. That’s the team we are building right now, quietly, as we tend to do, not always to the pleasure of everyone else, including the press, but we get on with our business quietly, respectfully to all our competitors. This is the way Torbjörn likes it, the way he is as a man. We are very professional and with a real will to win.

VSail.info: I’d like to step back to the previous America’s Cup. Artemis Racing was one of the teams that started very early, as early as the fall of 2010, had ample resources and became the Challenger of Record. However, it suffered from a series of very serious setbacks that culminated with the unfortunate and tragic accident last May. In hindsight, looking back, what were the errors the team committed? What lessons did you draw so that you avoid repeating them in this America’s Cup?

Iain Percy: Huge lessons! To be fair, I think that all teams that did this new challenge for the first time learnt a lot and you learn from doing things badly. Like everyone else we learnt through both, through making mistakes. I wasn’t very involved until after the 2012 Olympics but I must say that in the final 6-8 months, because of guys like Bart, Nathan or Iain Jensen, the feeling in the camp was absolutely incredible. I have personally, never worked in such a politics-free team, such a hard-working, driven team. Where we were for most of the time I experienced, there was very little wrong. We are now going to be one team, in one venue, concentrating on winning the America’s Cup. This is probably our central message.

VSail.info: In what regards the 34th America’s Cup as an event how would you assess it? What do you think were its strong points and where do you think it could be improved? Do you have any criticism regarding the organization, the format or what you personally think should be done?

Iain Percy: One thing I never doubted was that Larry’s and Russell’s vision, what they truly believed, was going to be the best for our sport and the best for the America’s Cup. I always supported that, I never was one of those cynics and, in the end, I think that the final product proved to be a step transformation for our sport. Finally, it was very appealing to the non-sailing public as well as the sailing public. Like we all learnt from our good and bad things, I’m sure the event will too. I think it’s clear that both on the safety side and the cost side, it would be good to increase safety and reduce costs, so that we have more teams.

VSail.info: This means you personally think there should be more teams. Isn’t the America’s Cup after all meant to be just for the Torbjörn Törnqvists and Larry Ellisons of the world?

Iain Percy: I think the America’s Cup will always be exclusive, it will always be the premiere event and it’s never going to be an event for the masses. This is clear, it never has been and never will be. This is precisely part of its appeal. For centuries we had the involvement of people like Sir Thomas Lipton and it’s always going to be the pinnacle and premiere. Just like Formula 1 or Premier League Football, it’s an expensive game. However, there is a balance. You can make it so exclusive that just one man in the world can afford it and you can go down to the Optimist level where you have hundreds and thousands of people.
I think that collectively, ourselves, Torbjörn and the other teams would like to see a few more teams involved. It doesn’t need to be a huge event, we want to keep it exclusive and we want to keep the “wow” factor in there and a few of the things that were breathtaking, not just on TV but also from the shore. I think that requires a certain boat size but for sure we support very much the efforts of Oracle and we are regularly communicating with them about cost, trying to get that balance just right. You want to keep the development element as much as possible, the excitement and the “wow” factor, that also comes from the development.

VSail.info: Everybody’s raging about foiling but, after all, it wouldn’t have existed if Emirates Team New Zealand hadn’t developed it!

Iain Percy: Absolutely and that’s another thing I have huge respect for them, having led the development side of that cycle, but there is a balance. We are trying to bring the costs down by 20-30% so that the next Cup can include a few more enthusiasts of our sport, companies and commercial partners, to join and make it slightly bigger.

VSail.info: That would also allow your buddy Ben Ainslie to find the adequate corporate funding and come in with a British team, wouldn’t it?

Iain Percy: That would be great. I’m really proud of what he’s trying to achieve. It takes a lot to take that on. He’s genuinely trying to be a businessman as well as a successful sailor. Whether he succeeds or not takes nothing away from the effort he’s putting in, which I think is fantastic for the sport. He’s a huge name for our sport, he’s a good friend but also incredible competitor. It takes personalities like him to take our sport beyond its traditional public and as a result, I really support what he’s doing. I talk to him regularly and I wish him very well with that.

VSail.info: If at the end, unfortunately, he’s unable to come up with the necessary funding for the British team, will you hire him for Artemis Racing?
Iain Percy: We are currently building a team independent of that, we have to. Myself and Ben are pretty open with each other that we don’t need to play games with each other, after knowing him for 30 years. We at Artemis Racing need to build a team that is capable of winning and dominating the Cup arena. We are going ahead doing that.

Full Interview (http://www.vsail.info/2013/11/20/iain-percy-talks-to-vsail-info-about-artemis-racing-the-rc44s-and-of-course-the-americas-cup/)

11-21-2013, 11:04 AM

No sooner than wrapping up official duties in San Francisco, Iain Murray is already looking ahead to the 35th America’s Cup. Ivor Wilkins meets the man in the pivotal role at this historic event to dissect the dream.

Image ACEA / Gilles Martin-Raget

Australian sailor, designer, boatbuilder and property developer, Iain Murray, found himself in the hot seat as regatta director of the most ambitious revision of the America’s Cup in its 162-year history. And, with his close connections to the Oatley empire, which has become Challenger of Record through the Hamilton Island Yacht Club, it is a fair bet Murray’s involvement with the event is not over.

With tensions wound up to breaking point as the 34th America’s Cup continued its slow march to a conclusion, Regatta Director Iain Murray smiled like a sadistic master of torture and willed it to stretch out even further.

Emirates Team New Zealand found themselves stranded on match point for an excruciating seven days, while Oracle Team USA strove to pull off one of sport’s great comeback miracles and the weather gods conspired to help them.

Day after day, the New Zealand skipper, Dean Barker, intoned his mantra of ‘one race at a time’, relying on the mathematical odds to surely tip the final win in his favour and return the Cup to New Zealand shores.

Aussie battler and Oracle helmsman, Jimmy Spithill used exactly the same mantra to describe his monumental task of winning eight straight races to edge past the Kiwi team and retain the Cup for software magnate, Larry Ellison.

To the horror of a nation of Kiwis, who had suspended normal life to will their boat to victory, Spithill and his crew kept prolonging the agony, defying all logic to win. For Murray and the event organisers, every time the racing schedule stretched out another day and the tensions ratcheted up another notch, it was sweet vindication of a vision to transform the 162-year-old event into a modern idiom.

“The Kiwis want this to be over quickly,” said America’s Cup Event Authority CEO Stephen Barclay, a New Zealander himself but closely allied with his erstwhile university mate, Sir Russell Coutts and the Oracle Team USA crew.

“Everybody else is enjoying what they are seeing. I want this to go as long as it can.”
Murray echoed those sentiments. “In a sense I feel we are now just arriving where we wanted to be. We would take a lot more races if we could. This is the most captivating racing I have ever seen. It is nothing short of remarkable, really.

“It didn’t always look like it would get here. It has been a struggle from the time we didn’t get the support we hoped for from multiple teams.”

Read On (http://www.oceanmagazine.com.au/j/index.php/all-issues/579-murray-and-the-mug#)

12-04-2013, 10:06 AM

Nassau, December, 2013

Paul Cayard

Tuesday, December 03, 2013

I have spent the past three months decompressing from a difficult Americas Cup for me. Sometimes things go well and you are oblivious to those struggling. Fortunately, my previous America's Cups and Around the World campaigns have been above average and ultimately very satisfying. This time was a struggle. We had early technical set backs which burned precious time. We were on the wrong design path and we waited too long to acknowledge it and convert. The result was a painful last 6 months as reality hit us squarely in the face. The tragedy of May 9th was the worst sailing disaster I have been involved in and something I will never forget. Needless to say, it was a stressful and hugely disappointing time.
After a couple of months away from it, I feel rested, but I have that lingering frustration that goes with a poor result like that. I am sure the cure is to move on to a new challenge and I am open minded as to what forum that me be in.


images © carlo borlenghi

For now, I am looking to have some fun in sailing. I have been invited to the inaugural Star Sailors League (SSL) Season Final. When I explain this new event, you will see that I really have no business racing in it. The concept is that this is a league for the top sailors in the world who are ranked through the competitions they attend during that year. At the end of the year, there is a final championship with prize money. This year, the Final is in Nassau and there will be 18 competitors racing for a total purse of $200,000. They are the highest ranking sailors in the World plus a couple of wild card invites. You can check out the participants and the results at www.starsailors.com.

SSL is the creation of Swiss Star sailor Michel Niklaus. His passion for the class and this event is impressive. The SSL team are making a huge effort to run a top quality event. They have a team of 30 people doing everything from television production, to GPS tracking for live internet tracking while we race. SSL are handling everything logistical with the competitors presence here. It seems to truly be a first class operation.

I am heading into the event skinnier than ever not to mention I haven't sailed a Star in 4 years. Logically, a little humble pie seems to be on order for me. However, I love Nassau's wind and waves and have raced here plenty over the past 30+ years. I do have one of the best crewing for me, Austin Sperry. Austin, aka Hoss, came to Athens to help Phil Trinter and I train for the '04 Olympics and then he went to the '08 Olympics, crewing for John Dane. So if I have a prayer out there this week it is due to Hoss.

So its time to get back to basics and enjoy some Star sailing in the best place on earth to sail!



12-05-2013, 02:24 PM
Things looking Up For Team NZ

Team New Zealand boss Grant Dalton has returned from his America's Cup fundraising drive "cautiously optimistic" another campaign can be mounted.

Dalton has spent two weeks in Europe and the United States sounding out existing sponsors about mounting another challenge.

"The reception from the sponsors was very, very good," Dalton said. "I'm cautiously optimistic it's a doable proposition."

Dalton said a key ingredient moving forward was the protocol and format for the next regatta which is currently being thrashed out by holders Oracle and new challenger of record, the Hamilton Island Yacht Club from Australia.

"In the end it will depend on the event. Until we have an event, we have nothing to sell."

Dalton said sponsor feedback from this year's event in San Francisco where Oracle came back from 8-1 down to pip Team New Zealand 9-8 in an absorb in final was very positive. But there had been a consensus that the Louis Vuitton Cup series needed to be bolstered moving forward, with more teams crucial for competitiveness and exposure.

"They felt the America's Cup final itself rescued the event."

It had engaged a lot of people and provided exciting potential moving forward.

Dalton revealed there had been some interest from potential new sponsors though he was yet to sit across a table with them.

He maintained government investment in another challenge would be "very important" and his team were working on a business case to help secure that.

While in Europe Dalton had also investigated sponsorship for a Volvo Ocean Race campaign with the round-the-world extravaganza "very close to my heart".

He had met with race organisers and described the 2014-15 event that includes an Auckland stopover as "really, really impressive".

"Fundingwise for the Volvo, I can see 50 per cent of that at the moment, but that might as well be five per cent because having half the money doesn't do anything. That timing is rushing at me like a train," he said, believing he would need to commit to a boat in the new one-design class by January with the race starting in October.

The America's Cup decision wouldn't need to be made until much later in the year.

"I can see how the America's Cup fits together, I can't quite put the Volvo together in my head at the moment," admitted Dalton, who has been a master in the fundraising game for more than 20 years.

On the recruitment drive, Dalton said Team New Zealand had been "95 per cent successful" in retaining the key players for another America's Cup challenge.

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The only casualty had been "an important designer".

Dalton intends to return to Europe in February for the next phase of fundraising, hopeful that the cup protocol will be released by then.

- © Fairfax NZ News


12-06-2013, 09:17 PM
If one wanted to post relevant information about AC35, where would it go ?

I have a hot scoop from clean that belongs here first :)

12-09-2013, 11:19 AM
Paul Lewis of the New Zealand Herald published an article speculating that teams participating the 35th edition of the America's Cup could host an event in their home waters.

The America's Cup could be coming to New Zealand after all, if early speculation regarding the shape of the next regatta comes to pass.

One possibility mooted ahead of the next Cup is that all entrants to the next regatta will stage a leg of the America's Cup. An international series will be held before a semifinal and final in San Francisco, if that is the venue for the next Cup chosen by holders, Oracle Team USA.

Sources in the US, New Zealand and Australia have confirmed there is much talk in Cup circles of hosting "home" America's Cup events in the countries of competing teams. The idea is to have more frequent Cup action - good for sponsors and TV rights - and to focus on the Cup more than once every four years or so.

It must be emphasised that these are extremely early days and the Cup community is waiting to see what OTUSA decide in terms of the protocol for the 35th America's Cup - the guiding rules which cover the timing, location, format, type of boat and other elements. Without that, potential challengers cannot assess their ability to compete and, most importantly, the cost of doing so.

But, with Australia's challenger of record, Hamilton Island Yacht Club, signed up and the likelihood of challenges from Britain, Italy's Luna Rossa, Sweden's Artemis and Emirates Team New Zealand, OTUSA is looking for new ways to do what everyone agrees on - reduce the costs.

That is especially so given the dearth of challengers in San Francisco this year and the high costs attached to the previous Oracle-owned-and-operated America's Cup World Series in the AC45 45-foot catamarans, run over the past two years. It is understood Oracle wanted Auckland City to stump up 4 million-5 million (up to $8 million) for hosting such an event in Auckland the last time. The council is said to have offered 2m (over $3m) but the gap proved too large and ACWS events were instead held in Portugal, the US, the UK and Italy.

The theory now is that all entrants will get to stage an America's Cup event in their own back yard in 2014, 2015 and 2016 - with the local team arranging the event and "owning" the financial structure. Then the top four teams over the international series would head to San Francisco (or wherever the finals venue is) for semifinals and the Cup match against the holder in 2017.

Team NZ boss Grant Dalton, asked if he had heard the talk of home events, said: "We have heard something like that. But no one has talked to us about it and I have no detail. There is no way of knowing whether it will happen."

Asked whether New Zealand would be able to stage such an event, he said: "Absolutely. We did something like that with the Louis Vuitton Pacific Series - and I reckon we could stage something for a fraction of the costs [that have subsequently applied in the America's Cup]."

The LVPS was held in Auckland in January and February 2009 when then holders Alinghi and BMW Oracle, as OTUSA were then, were locked in a legal dispute (Oracle won, forced a deed of gift challenge and took the Cup off Alinghi in 2010) which took the Cup off the water and into the courtroom for years.

The LVPS was staged to retain public interest and to remind them that the Cup was not simply the property of warring billionaires.

The concept of annual, "global" America's Cup events was also raised during the last Cup regatta. The 2013 America's Cup advisory committee - assembled by Oracle supremo Larry Ellison and containing heavy hitters in US sports, marketing, media and commerce - had plans to launch a World Series in 2014.

The original principle was to establish 10-20 franchises around the world, each to race an AC45 or similar catamarans in various venues. The franchises would be established not only in the US, Britain, Europe, Australia and New Zealand but also Asia, the Middle East and Africa. Then, in 2017, the challengers would race off for the right to become the challenger in the America's Cup match.

The AC45s might have had their day. Not only were they compromised in the ACWS cheating scandal which saw OTUSA team members banned from the Cup regatta, they possess little of the aura, danger and foiling abilities of the AC72s which contested the 34th Cup. In addition, the costs of transporting two classes of boat around the world is prohibitive.

So, with information pieced together from round the international yachting community (a request to interview OTUSA CEO Sir Russell Coutts was declined), a possible shape for the next America's Cup may be as follows:

Sixty-five-foot foiling catamarans - smaller than the AC72s but still big and fast enough to provide what Coutts called the "grandeur" of the Cup. They might also have identical hulls and wingsails but have a design component in the foils, for example. That would reduce team and design costs, allow closer racing but not shut the door on all technological advances.

All entrants to hold "home" regattas in these boats, with results counting to finding America's Cup semifinalists.

The top four challengers to take part in the Louis Vuitton regatta to find the challenger to take on OTUSA in the Cup match in 2017.

There are still some unanswered questions, like how teams can afford to transport boats and crew round the world in an international series. It will be interesting to see how much of this is contained in OTUSA's protocol when it is released next year.

- Herald on Sunday

Full Article (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11168867)

12-09-2013, 04:59 PM
If one wanted to post relevant information about AC35, where would it go ?

I have a hot scoop from clean that belongs here first :)


12-09-2013, 05:48 PM
Actually it's not from clean, he's preoccupied with sport boats at the moment.

Unconfirmed, pure speculation and guesswork, 65' cats to be raced very nearby, assuming politicians don't drop a load in their own cereal bowl.

Other specifics are TBD - ie; one-design components, etc.

12-11-2013, 10:54 AM

Artemis Racing is pleased to announce that Olympic Gold medalists Nathan Outteridge and Iain "Goobs" Jensen are continuing with the team, which is currently preparing its bid for the 35th America’s Cup.

Nathan and Goobs will be once again joining forces with existing sailing team members triple Olympic medalist Iain Percy and legendary grinder Chris Brittle. This combination of sailing talents will serve as the foundation of Artemis Racing on the water and will work closely with designers to develop a winning boat.

“With Iain, Nathan, Goobs and Chris all on board, Artemis Racing has a core of talent and experience that will drive us toward the next Cup,” said Artemis Racing owner Torbjörn Törnqvist. “They have individually and together already achieved very much and I believe in their potential as a team. We look forward to seeing what the 35th America's Cup will bring.”

Nathan served as helmsman and Goobs as wing trimmer in the 34th America's Cup, giving them invaluable experience on AC72s. The pair have sailed together from childhood and have achieved numerous victories, including a Gold Medal in the 49er class in the 2012 Summer Olympics - a feat which they look to repeat during the 2016 Olympics in Rio.

"Torbjörn and Perce are great to work with and are truly passionate about wanting to build a strong, youthful team capable of winning the Cup,” said Nathan. "They fully support our Olympic ambitions and have made it very clear that Goobs and I are the right people to be leading this team."

12-11-2013, 11:05 AM

Franck Cammas, Michel Desjoyeaux and Olivier de Kersauzon have announced a bid for next Americàs Cup!

Thunderclap. At Nautic 2013, Franck Cammas and Michel Desjoyeaux unveiled their project Team France - Olivier de Kersauson! "End of 2012, we established our next goal: winning the America's Cup," said Cammas, Oracle co-skipper in 2009 and Luna Rossa in 2012. Franck will be in charge of the sports section, Mich'Desj 'the technological aspect. "Kersauson, he will act as a big brother." Under the auspices of the Yacht Club de France, Stéphane Kandler lead the team, which will include a club founding members: Bruno Bich (Bic), Bertrand Méheut (Canal +), Thierry Martel (Groupama), Bruno Luisetti (formerly Kraft Jacobs Suchard) and Erik Maris (Messier Maris & Associés). And if this time it was good? / HH


IOR Geezer
12-11-2013, 11:23 AM
That makes two French teams? Peyron is still in?

12-11-2013, 01:07 PM
AC likely to return to SF in 2017


12-11-2013, 01:26 PM
Great news for Artemis - Nathan is a class act that will be a force to contend with.

His progress in foiling the AC45 and AC72 was unmatched.

El Capitan
12-11-2013, 01:39 PM
Spithill still playin his cards for mo money?

12-11-2013, 03:14 PM
News 3 New Zealand has a 14. minute interview with Grant Dalton:


Two-and-a-half months since the last race in San Francisco, Grant Dalton is still hard at work.

A big part of that has been re-signing personnel and despite initially thinking his own time might be up, the positive response from the public has relit the fire.
"They've made that commitment to live in New Zealand and be part of this organisation, and that motivates me because I'm responsible for that - to make sure that the kids can go to school and they can buy houses. So yeah, I'll be around," Dalton said.

The Biggest factor in the team's future will be what boats, when and where the next regatta will be and until then, Dalton will do his best to form the sponsorship puzzle.

Dalton Interview (http://www.3news.co.nz/VIDEO-Full-interview---Grant-Dalton/tabid/415/articleID/324626/Default.aspx)

Click above to view!

"You've got to put all those pieces together and if they all come together, then you're away. We think we'll see something in march, from a protocol point of view, in march and then it's flat out getting it done - or not. I would say three months getting it done."
The news is also looking positive for local sailing fans.
Auckland could host a stop on the world series if Team New Zealand are in the race.
Watch Grant Dalton's full interview with 3 News sports reporter Greg Pearson.

12-23-2013, 10:49 AM

The San Francisco Chronicle indicates that the City of SF will submit their preliminary bid to host the 35th Edition of the America's Cup today.

San Francisco plans to submit a letter Monday to Team Oracle formally offering to host the America's Cup sailing competition again - only this time, city officials won't be offering any big subsidies or real estate as part of the deal.

"The mayor has been unabashed about his desire to have the event back," said Mayor Ed Lee's senior adviser, Tony Winnicker. "Having said that, we have learned the lessons from the 34th Cup."

One mistake, he said, was trying to connect the hosting agreement to a complicated real estate transaction. The city pledged last time to give Oracle's Larry Ellison the long-term development rights to Piers 30-32 in exchange for repairing the dilapidated piers. That deal eventually fell apart, bruising feelings on both sides.

The other misstep was the city's pledge to raise $22 million in private donations to defray the race costs. The city came up with just $9 million and was forced to make up the rest from the general fund.

And while San Francisco would still be on the hook next time for police, fire, traffic control and the like, according to Winnicker, it won't have to conduct another $6 million environmental impact study.

Just what goodies Ellison will get are still up in the air, but Winnicker said, "We will negotiate a very tight agreement for a great race that protects taxpayers and maximizes the economic benefits."

As winner of the last competition, Ellison is expected to pick the next America's Cup site sometime in the next few months. The competition will probably take place in 2017.

How much the city benefited from the last Cup remains up for debate.

Take the recent report by Cup boosters at the Bay Area Council, who said the event generated an impressive $550 million in economic activity throughout the Bay Area, including $5.7 million in direct tax revenue for San Francisco.

The study's findings were based in large part on a survey of 1,000 Cup fans on how they spent their money. The question is, would other tourists - who perhaps couldn't score a hotel room during the Cup - have spent just as much had they been able to come?

"We are not going to know that," said Ted Egan, chief economist for the city controller's office. "It is, however, fair to say that all tourist spending has been going up in San Francisco for the past two years."


12-23-2013, 11:25 AM
Christopher Clarey of the NY Times published this insightful piece on the Oatley's and their quest for more
Sydney Hobart glory as well as some ideas of where the 35th edition of the America's Cup is headed!


The Oatley's Wild Oats training in Bass Strait,
image © Carlo Borlenghi

The Oatleys will be debutants and underdogs in the next America’s Cup, but they remain the family to beat in the Rolex Sydney to Hobart Race, which begins its 69th edition on Thursday.

Their super-maxi yacht Wild Oats XI has been the first across the finish line in the grueling ocean race on six occasions. That is one short of the record, but after its latest round of modifications and despite stiffer competition, Wild Oats XI is favored to equal it.

“I think this year is going to be one of the most competitive races in a long while,” said Sandy Oatley, who owns the 100-foot, or 30-meter, yacht with his 86-year-old father, Bob.

This year’s changes include the addition of a side board, a retractable, hydraulically powered appendage that will provide extra lift to the bow and reduce the boat’s displacement at speeds exceeding 25 knots and is inspired in part by the foiling systems used in the last America’s Cup.

“We’ve seen the lift and power generated off the foils on the foiling AC72s, and we decided a year ago to try to pursue a similar thing,” said Iain Murray, the Australian who was the America’s Cup regatta director in San Francisco and believes the side board can add “3 to 4 knots of boat speed.”

The Hobart, as Australians call it, is a race of about 630 nautical miles, with the yachts departing from Sydney Harbor, crossing the notoriously volatile and relatively shallow Bass Strait and then arriving at the coast of Tasmania, where they sail up the mouth of the Derwent River to Hobart, the state capital.

Started in 1945, the race has been a vehicle of not only triumph. There was tragedy in 1998 when six sailors died and five yachts sunk during a fierce storm. But the race remains a summer staple of Australia’s sports-centric culture.

“For a middle-distance race like that, I don’t know of any race that has the sort of real general interest of the public,” said Ian Burns, an Australian from Sydney who is sailing in his 17th Sydney-Hobart and will be one of the Wild Oats navigators. “It’s great to see the country actually take an interest in what I would call normal yachting that people from the yacht club do.”

Sandy Oatley said his father had begun the sport as a boy, before he was 10 years old, converting a canoe into a sailboat with a centerboard, mast and cotton bed sheets for sails. Bob Oatley later went on to make his fortune in wine.

“We had a short stint away from the water when we were developing the wine business,” Sandy Oatley recalled. “For 10 years, all the boats went, and when we were building that, we basically moved to the country, planting vineyards and making wines. But in the last 15 years, Dad has had more time to spend time with sailing.”

Bob Oatley still sails most Wednesdays north of Sydney in a smaller version of Wild Oats, but he no longer sails in overnight offshore races. Sandy Oatley, meanwhile, has never raced the Hobart.

“I’m sort of a fair-weather sailor and get a bit anxious and claustrophobic,” he said. “I have done a few overnight races heading north, but I have to stay on deck. I can’t go below for too long because I get a bit closed in.”

The Oatleys are, nonetheless, at the heart of the sport in Australia. They operate Hamilton Island Race Week in August off the Queensland coast and are the challenger of record for the next America’s Cup. Their challenge will be the first by an Australian team since 2000 and it comes after the most recent Cup competition was awash in Australian sailors racing for teams from other nations.

Some of them, including Tom Slingsby of Oracle Team USA and Nathan Outteridge of Artemis Racing, received funding and support from the Oatleys as part of a successful Olympic training program.

The Oatleys had long deemed the America’s Cup too expensive, but Sandy Oatley said the depth of Australian talent and the emotions stirred by this year’s thriller of a competition in 72-foot foiling catamarans were decisive factors in inspiring the challenge.

The Oatleys and Murray, who is the new chief executive officer of their Hamilton Island Yacht Club syndicate, have been negotiating terms of the next Cup with Russell Coutts, the New Zealand star who is chief executive officer of Oracle Team USA, the Cup holder.

Murray said he still had not taken a proper break since the Cup ended in September with one of the most dramatic comebacks in any sport. Oracle rallied from an 8-1 deficit, winning eight straight races to defeat Emirates Team New Zealand and retain the Cup.

“I don’t think I will get my breath caught,” he said. “This is like a startup company. There’s a hell of a lot to do. Even though we’re four years out from the Cup, every day is measured, really.”

Although the next America’s Cup is not likely to be contested until 2017, it already has become clear that the new stars from Australia do not intend to join the Oatleys and Murray. Slingsby has re-signed with Oracle, Outteridge with Artemis, and Murray said the most prominent Australian in the last Cup — Jimmy Spithill, the Oracle skipper and helmsman — was also not expected to be a recruit.

“We’re just not in that league financially,” Murray said.

Oatley added: “We don’t think it’s a problem. You know they’ve had contractual arrangements and so forth, but there’s a lot of great sailors here in Australia. The ones you mentioned have been exposed to the America’s Cup and been in the limelight, and I’m sure there’s a lot more out there equally as capable and they’ll get some time to shine in the sun, as well.”

Murray quickly reeled off a list of candidates, including Matthew Belcher, an Olympic gold medalist who was just named male world sailor of the year.

With team budgets exceeding $100 million in the last Cup, cost-cutting remains the goal, and Murray said Coutts seemed genuinely committed to do so.

“It’s going to be real this time,” Murray said. “This is about people, numbers of people and what people get paid.”

Tentative plans include reducing crews from 11 members to 9; reducing the size of the foiling catamarans from 72 feet to something in the low 60s, and approving the use of one-design wing sails and platforms, which would trim labor and development costs and leave the hulls and appendages as the primary innovation grounds.

Full Article (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/24/sports/a-sailing-familys-next-challenge.html?pagewanted=all&tntemail0=y&_r=3&emc=edit_tnt_20131223&)

12-24-2013, 03:14 PM
In a strong sign that the America's Cup could return to San Francisco in 2017, Mayor Ed Lee has proposed to organisers that the main venue and team bases be centralised on the Embarcadero and that the schedule be more consistent and condensed.

Lee said in a letter to the America's Cup Event Authority that the city is making the proposal "guided by the lessons learned and practical experience of the 34th America's Cup."

The city and the America's Cup Event Authority must still agree to a host city agreement for the 35th America's Cup, with that agreement needing the approval of the Board of Supervisors.

Oracle Team USA staged one of the greatest comebacks in sports in September on San Francisco Bay by winning eight straight races against Team New Zealand to retain the oldest trophy in international sports.

While it was the most successful regatta in the 162-year history of the America's Cup, the buildup was full of setbacks, including the death of a sailor during training, it generated less economic impact in the Bay Area than projected and cost city taxpayers more than US$5 million.

Lee's letter said any decision to host the next America's Cup "must build from and cultivate the success of the past event while at the same time take account of better ways to capitalise on previously missed opportunities."

He added that he's looking for an agreement for America's Cup 35 "that maximises the economic, cultural and other benefits for the City and eliminates unnecessary risks and uncertainty."

Lee proposed that Piers 27-29 on the Embarcadero not only host America's Cup Park again, but, in a significant change from the last regatta, house the team bases as well.

Last summer, team bases were scattered around the bay. Artemis Racing of Sweden was based in Alameda, Oracle Team USA was on Pier 80 and Team New Zealand and Italy's Luna Rossa shared Piers 30-32.

Russell Coutts, a five-time America's Cup winner who is CEO of Oracle Team USA, said Lee's letter is encouraging.

"People saw last time that it kind of opened up the city's waterfront to people in a way that hadn't happened before," Coutts said in a phone interview from his home in New Zealand.

"People can go down to the waterfront and enjoy themselves and watch the racing. With the lessons learned last time, we plan to make that even better than last time."

Coutts said he thinks Piers 27-29 have room to host bases for the four challenger semifinalists and Oracle Team USA.

While negotiating with San Francisco officials, Oracle Team USA also is negotiating with Team Australia, the Challenger of Record. Coutts said Oracle and the Australians are discussing an elimination series staged in ports around the world, with challengers hosting the various regattas.

The challenger semifinals and finals, followed by the America's Cup match, would all be held in August 2017 on San Francisco Bay. The challenger series and the America's Cup match were spread over three months last summer.

Coutts said the two sides are discussing having all rounds be best-of-five. The challenger final last summer was best-of-13. The America's Cup match was best-of-17, but ended up going 19 races because Oracle Team USA was docked two points as a penalty for a cheating scandal, forcing it to win 11 races to retain the America's Cup.

"We think the more condensed the race program is, the better," Coutts said. "We thought it was too long last time. A more intense race program, focused into one month, will make it easier for the city and more doable for the city. It will also be better for TV programing, and frankly, be more interesting for the spectators. The whole series was a little long last time."

- AP


12-24-2013, 03:19 PM

Pete Melvin (http://www.pressure-drop.us/forums/content.php?3883-The-Pete-Melvin-Interview) has been been hired to lead the development of the new design rule. While the last Cup was contested in 72-foot catamarans,
Coutts said organizers are looking to sail the next one in catamarans between 60-65 feet long.

Congrats Pete!

Ed Lee and KTVU Interview (http://www.ktvu.com/videos/news/san-francisco-city-begins-push-to-host-americas/vCLyRk/)

More info! (http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/12/23/san-francisco-mayor-makes-pitch-for-americas-cup-to-return/)

12-25-2013, 12:29 PM
Nice scoop -

Buzz Light Beer
12-26-2013, 08:54 PM
Great for Pete! Nicest guy you'll ever meet!

01-01-2014, 11:12 AM

A great 25 minute interview with Russell Coutts by Murray Deaker on AC 34, AC 35 and
his tenure with Oracle Racing.

Charlie Tuna
01-01-2014, 07:55 PM

A great 25 minute interview with Russell Coutts by Murray Deaker on AC 34, AC 35 and
his tenure with Oracle Racing.

Awesome interview without the normal beating around the bush. 5 Cup wins in a row, yet the threat of Uncle Larry's
axe swinging nearby, even up to the last race. Think Russell will rejoin TNZ again? I think if Grant Dalton retires, Russell
would gladly step in. Go out at NZ hero and not a traitor.

01-11-2014, 11:08 AM
Speculation from various sources is that AC35 will be raced in 60' to 65' cats with the venue to be selected sometime in late Q1. SF is the preferred venue by the competitors, but is subject to an agreement with the city which is likely to raise further objections. Alternate sites WW are currently being investigated.

Discussion of cost reduction efforts have centered around reduced crew (~8) and standardized wings and possibly hulls. Regardless teams are targeting budgets in the $80M to $100M range. The question of costs vs actual expenditures still remains.

The nationality rule is also a subject of discussion - the devil is in the details.

Inputs from the London boat show are that Ainsle has made good progress with find raising, and will also enter the ESS series.

A protocol is expected in late March.

01-11-2014, 12:06 PM
Additional intel says there will be no separation between ACRM and ACEA, it will be all under one large umbrella...

Peter Reggio possibly new 2nd in command?

Charlie Tuna
01-12-2014, 10:31 AM

Things looking good for replay in SF in 2017

01-13-2014, 04:44 PM

Emirates Team New Zealand announced today that it had signed Olympic 49er silver medalists Peter Burling and Blair Tuke.

The 2013 49er world champions won the youth America’s Cup regatta sailed in AC45s at San Francisco last year. Last weekend, they won the New Zealand 49er championships at the weekend,

Managing director Grant Dalton said the team needs to bring young New Zealand sailors up through the ranks if it is to stay at the forefront of international sailing. “Peter and Blair have performed with distinction internationally and have earned the chance sail with us.”

They will combine the America’s Cup campaign with their Olympic bid to win gold in the 49er skiff at Rio 2016.

Dalton said the team will race two AC45s at world series events in 2015 and 2016. The America’s Cup World Series fits neatly into their Olympic campaign.

“They are well aware that the transition from Olympic sailing and making their own decisions to being part of a large, structured sailing team will not be easy. Their job will be to soak up the knowledge and the experience within the team and push hard for a place on the America’s Cup boat.”

Peter Burling said he was “really proud and excited to be joining Emirates Team New Zealand. I know a lot of team members from our Youth America’s Cup campaign last year and it is great to be joining such a united, focused team.

“It will be a massive challenge to balance doing an Olympic campaign and this campaign, but I believe our Olympic plan is solid with a great team around us.

“I am really looking forward to helping Emirates Team New Zealand bring the Cup back to NZ.”

Blair Tuke,: “To be able to combine America’s cup sailing with our Olympic campaign is fantastic – our expectation is that sailing at the highest level in our 49er as well as with Emirates Team New Zealand will complement each other and make us stronger at both types of sailing.”

- See more at: http://etnzblog.com/#!2014/01/young-champs-signed-for-the-sailing-team

Charlie Tuna
01-13-2014, 05:27 PM
Score one for the Kiwi's

01-20-2014, 08:32 PM

Emirates Team New Zealand will return to the Extreme 40 circuit this year, skipper Dean Barker announced today.

Barker says the team needs to start developing the sailing team for the 35th America’s Cup while integrating Peter Burling and Blair Tuke into the squad.

“We can’t wait around until Oracle releases the Protocol for the 35th America’s Cup,” he said. “We need to keep developing and take every available opportunity to compete in cats.”

Barker said he had discussed Burling’s Olympic 49er campaign commitments and it seemed he would be available for three of the eight regattas. “I will skipper five. We will rotate sailing squad members through the other crew positions.

“Between the two of us we will be able to field competitive crews through the year.”


Barker will be at the helm at the first two regattas – Singapore next month and Muscat, Oman, in March. Burling takes over for the following two regattas China in May and Russia in June. The remaining regattas have yet to be finalised.

The team competed on the circuit in 2011 – an unforgiving introduction to the world of top-level multihull racing. Courses are tight and traffic around the marks can be heavy. Collisions and capsizes are frequent.

Barker says, “Extreme 40 racing is unlike any other; the teams are very competitive, races are short, the action non-stop and split-second decisions are needed.”

Racing takes place over four days at each event: one day of open water racing followed by three days of stadium racing. If the breeze is favourable eight to 10 races can be held each day.

Barker’s first Extreme 40 event was the last regatta of the 2010 series. “It was at Almeria, Spain, and we were last.” But they learned what they had to do to become competitive in multihulls, a massive step towards the 34th America’s Cup.

Barker and crew soon had the measure of the boat and the opposing teams in the 2011 circuit and the crew improved with every regatta, winning the Boston event in May.

Then AC45 training became the priority and the team used the Extreme 40 series to give he rest of the sailing crew valuable multihull experience,

Burling and Tuke sailed in three Extreme 40 regattas last year before switching their focus to the AC45 and the Youth America’s Cup, wining the regatta in September. This year their Olympic campaign will take priority but they aim to make their mark in the Extreme 40s.

This year the Extreme Sailing Series™ will race at eight venues: Singapore (February 20-23), Muscat, Oman (March 19-22), Qingdao (May 1-4), St Petersburg, Russia (June 26-29), Cardiff, Wales (August 22-25), Istanbul (September 11-14), The Mediterranean at a port to be announced (October 2-5), Sydney (Dec 11-14)

- See more at: http://etnzblog.com/#!2014/01/team-to-return-to-the-extreme-40-circuit

01-23-2014, 10:23 AM

Artemis Racing has signed designers Michel Kermarec and Thiha “Winnie” Win, who will join returning designers Adam May and Nico Rousselon, as the team prepares a possible AC35 bid.

“The America’s Cup is not just about innovative design or sailing talent, but about how they work together successfully,” said Artemis Racing owner Torbjörn Törnqvist. “We’re pleased to have Michel and Winnie join our team to help exemplify Artemis Racing’s collaborative spirit as we move toward the next Cup.”

Michel brings a wealth of experience to Artemis Racing, having served as a key member of Oracle Team USA’s design team during their AC33 and AC34 victories. He specializes in performance prediction and appendage design, and holds a PhD in hydrodynamics. Michel is a talented sailor, and represented France in the Soling class at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul.

Winnie has been involved in many high-profile advanced engineering projects all over the world in both marine and non-marine industries. After a very successful period in motor sport in the early 2000s, he turned his attention to America’s Cup yacht design in AC32, with Luna Rossa Challenge. Winnie was a key member of BMW Oracle Racing’s design team during their victorious AC33, and was part of Emirates Team New Zealand’s successful AC34.

On joining the team Winnie said: “We hope this next America’s Cup will be racing on foiling catamarans and continue to excite sailors, designers and general public alike. I’m extremely excited to be joining such a talented group of sailors and designers, and look forward to pushing myself to the limits to find success with Artemis Racing.”

Nico, a specialist in aerodynamics, graduated from Southampton Institute in 2004 with a BEng in Yacht and Powercraft Design, before specializing in Computational Fluid Dynamics with an MSc at Southampton University. In 2007, he integrated the Cape Horn Engineering (then CFD branch of Juan Yacht Design) to start the aero side of the company. His skills were further developed through two Volvo Ocean Race wins (Ericsson4 and Groupama).

Adam competed for Great Britain at the Sydney Olympics in the Tornado class, and is an aeronautical engineer by trade, having worked for Airbus UK in their wind tunnel and design office. He was a technical coach for TeamOrigin and Skandia TeamGBR, working closely with Iain Percy and Andrew Simpson during their successful 2008 and 2012 Olympic campaigns. Adam was part of the AC32 Victory Challenge team, before joining Artemis Racing for AC34.

“It is great to be back with Artemis Racing, and roll straight into things,” said Adam. “We are very fortunate to have attracted top designers like Michel and Winnie to our team and who share in our vision. I’m looking forward to working with Nico again as well, a young talent who I was fortunate to work alongside last time around.”

Artemis Racing continues to assess the criteria for the next America’s Cup, and is in the meantime building a winning team based on experience, talent and collaboration, and looks forward to making additional team announcements soon.

IOR Geezer
01-23-2014, 10:17 PM
The radiator guy says Hawaii is for real:


01-26-2014, 02:04 PM

Could the lack of resources and willingness to give in cost San Francisco the opportunity to host the 35th America's Cup? To no ones surprise. Oracle Racing CEO Russell Coutts told Associated Press Reporters on Saturday that he is still shopping for alternative hosting venues "because San Francisco officials haven’t offered the same terms as they did for last summer’s regatta, which ended with the American syndicate staging one of the greatest comebacks in sports."

SF still has a chance to host, but has his doubts that SF Officials will provide what Cup Officials want: “They might have a change of heart. I don’t think they will, but they might,” Coutts said by phone from France. He is in Europe talking to potential sponsors.

The article goes on to point out the positive relationship that Larry Ellison has enjoyed with Hawaii's Governor, Neil Ambercrombie, in regards to his ongoing project on the island of Lanai:

"Abercrombie spoke glowingly last summer about Ellison’s involvement with Lanai, saying: “I can’t think of anything that I’ve been involved with in decades, on a magnitude of this nature, that has been more pleasant and productive and cooperative than the relationship that at least we in the state have had with Mr. Ellison and his people.”

Full Article (http://www.staradvertiser.com/sports/20140126_Next_Americas_Cup_could_be_in_Hawaii.html ?id=242028211)

Nick Salvador
01-26-2014, 05:06 PM

Could the lack of resources and willingness to give in cost San Francisco the opportunity to host the 35th America's Cup? To no ones surprise. Oracle Racing CEO Russell Coutts told Associated Press Reporters on Saturday that he is still shopping for alternative hosting venues "because San Francisco officials haven’t offered the same terms as they did for last summer’s regatta, which ended with the American syndicate staging one of the greatest comebacks in sports."

SF still has a chance to host, but has his doubts that SF Officials will provide what Cup Officials want: “They might have a change of heart. I don’t think they will, but they might,” Coutts said by phone from France. He is in Europe talking to potential sponsors.

The article goes on to point out the positive relationship that Larry Ellison has enjoyed with Hawaii's Governor, Neil Ambercrombie, in regards to his ongoing project on the island of Lanai:

"Abercrombie spoke glowingly last summer about Ellison’s involvement with Lanai, saying: “I can’t think of anything that I’ve been involved with in decades, on a magnitude of this nature, that has been more pleasant and productive and cooperative than the relationship that at least we in the state have had with Mr. Ellison and his people.”

Full Article (http://www.staradvertiser.com/sports/20140126_Next_Americas_Cup_could_be_in_Hawaii.html ?id=242028211)

That's exactly the bloody attitude that will cause the SF BoS and the local racing community (that had to give up most of the bay for the '13 season) to tell Mr. Coutts to screw himself. He must be trying to become the most hated sailor in NZ and northern CA. Dick move Russell.

01-27-2014, 01:12 PM
Yeah! No way they are just posturing for negotiations...

02-02-2014, 11:46 AM

From America's Cup Dot Com:

Pete Melvin has come a long way since the first boat he built as a 6-year old, which, unfortunately, would not float.

But he didn’t let that initial setback discourage him. Now a respected and successful sailor, designer and engineer, Melvin has been hired by the Defender and Challenger of Record of the 35th America’s Cup and tasked with coming up with the class rule for a second consecutive time.

“The process is to listen to the requests and desires of the Defender and Challenger of Record, which includes reducing the costs of the boats and in fact of the entire campaign. On the boat side, that means smaller boats, with less crew, and less personnel involved in design, logistics, and reduced construction costs,” Melvin says.

“We are looking at concepts that are similar to the AC72 - a foiling cat with wingsail. The consensus from teams is that this was a good concept and we want a smaller version in the 60 to 65 foot range. We’re looking at various ratios of beam to length and wing size and power and running VPPs on those boats to see performance, speed, controllability etc.

“We’ll get all the numbers together and then we’ll work with the teams to get consensus on what the new configuration should be from among a few options and then we’ll write the Class Rule around that exact configuration.”

Melvin says he’s getting a broad range of support and help from teams and other stakeholders.

“We’ve already started to re-write the rule. We’ve had a lot of input from the different teams around things like safety, size and cost that they would like to see. And the measurement committee from the last Cup has given input on the way the rule should be written to make it easier to measure and administrate.”

For the 34th America’s Cup, Melvin’s design firm, Morrelli & Melvin, were the lead designers in writing the America’s Cup Class Rule, the first time a multihull class rule had been established for the Cup.

“Last time was a whirlwind as we had concepts but there was also a monohull proposal and both rules were being developed at the same time,” he says. “This time, we have a better idea of what’s involved in the process of developing a concept into a class rule, but we have a shorter time window. So we’re under pressure to be efficient and quick.

“We’ve had good support from most teams and good feedback on items like safety. Three or four of the teams are giving us technical help with creating concepts and running VPPs and it’s good to have that broad base of involvement.”

The input is welcome, especially with the focus on reducing costs. In addition to making the boats smaller than the AC72s used last time, there is talk of making some aspects of the boat one-design.

“We believe significant cost reductions could come from making some items one-design. We’re looking at making parts of the wing one design, so that the teams could share tooling, for example. There are other areas where that one-design concept could work as well,” he says.

“The America’s Cup has always had a large emphasis on design technology and there’s no desire to change that. But there is a desire to reduce the costs of design and construction. So there are areas where it’s interesting to allow design innovation and there are others where you can throw a lot of design resource at something but won’t see a lot of performance differentiation. So those might be areas where one-design makes sense.”

Following their job writing the rule last time around, Morrelli and Melvin went on to work with Emirates Team New Zealand, joining a design team that came within one race of winning the America’s Cup this past September. Melvin hopes to make a similar transition to a team this time.

“It’s not a major focus right now, we have a lot of work to do to get this rule out, but it would be great to end up with a team again,” Melvin says.

“We started our business back in 1992 and our passion was racing multihulls (Melvin represented the USA at the Olympic Games in mulithulls as is a two-time A-Class World Champion) we had to diversify into cruising boats and powerboats just to stay in business.

“We never though the America’s Cup would come our way and then it did with the 2010 Cup. We wanted to get involved to benefit from the technology that we knew would come out of that. So these last few years have been a dream come true in many ways and we’re happy to be involved.”

The Class Rule for the 35th America’s Cup is expected to be released in March, 2014.


Buzz Light Beer
02-03-2014, 12:12 PM
Spitty re-ups with Oracle


Flat Stanley
02-04-2014, 09:55 AM
Not exactly earth shattering new that J.S. would stay, why would he unless a far superior offer
was made by Australia. Or New Zealand. Or France. Or Great Britain.

02-06-2014, 05:37 PM

The America’s Cup winner, ORACLE TEAM USA, has announced its design team for the 35th America’s Cup.

The design team features 11 Americans, as ORACLE TEAM USA looks towards homegrown design and engineering expertise to successfully defend the next America’s Cup.

“We’ve collected a talented group of designers for this campaign and a majority of them are American,” said Grant Simmer, who returns as General Manager of ORACLE TEAM USA. “We have a good mix of experience and expertise across the disciplines where we think the design challenge for this next America’s Cup will be contested.”

Among the returnees from previous campaigns, wing design manager Scott Ferguson (USA) is back for a third successive America’s Cup with ORACLE TEAM USA. A collegiate All-American sailor, Ferguson has 30 years of design experience and is an expert in masts, spars, and now wing sails.

“It’s exciting to be back and trying for three in a row with ORACLE TEAM USA,” Ferguson said. “We know this is going to be a big challenge as the competition is always getting better. We’ll be working to a new class rule again with more constraints, but there should be a plenty of scope for innovation.”

Among those new to the team are Len Imas (USA) and Hal Youngren (USA), who worked with Team New Zealand during the previous Cup, contributing to the design of a Kiwi boat that came within one race of winning it all.

“It’s still amazing to think that the final was so close, and that it all came down to one last race,” Imas said. “Now, it’s great to sit down with these guys, learn what they were thinking and to start work again with the new team.”

The ORACLE TEAM USA design team met as a group for the first time in San Francisco this week and is eagerly awaiting the release of the new America’s Cup Class Rule next month.

“In many ways, the release of the design rule is the starting gun for the 35th America’s Cup,” said Simmer. “From that moment on, the clock is ticking towards the start of race one, and time which is your most precious currency in these campaigns, starts to get spent. We need to be ready to work from day one and spend our time wisely.”

The ORACLE TEAM USA design team for the 35th America’s Cup:

Paul Bieker (USA), Dimitri Despierres (FRA), Len Imas (USA), Hal Youngren (USA), Aaron Perry (USA), Bryan Baker (USA), Juan Vila (ESP), Scott Ferguson (USA), Christophe Elberding (GER), Thomas Hann (GER), Steven Roberts (FRA), Jose Luis Vela (ESP), Tom Speer (USA), Eric Jolley (USA), Andrew Gaynor (USA), Ian Burns (AUS), JB Braun (USA), Kurt Jordan (USA)


02-07-2014, 10:33 AM

The SF Chronicle reports that during a meeting with Russell Coutts Thursday eve, Russell Coutts, the lead negotiator for Oracle Team USA, was unhappy with the negotiations going on with the City Of San Francisco on hosting the 35th America's Cup;

The March 1 deadline that had been set to announce the next venue, boat type and rules for sailing's premier competition will be pushed back until summer to decide on the venue, so there is time to evaluate proposals from the other sites, Coutts said. He declined to name them all, but indicated San Diego and Hawaii, where Ellison owns the vast majority of the island of Lanai, are in the mix, as is a "Northern state" venue, likely Newport, R.I., where the regatta was held from 1930 to 1983.

"I was hoping we'd be able to complete a deal (with San Francisco) - because everyone knew what it was - relatively quickly," said Russell Coutts, the head of software billionaire Larry Ellison's Oracle Team USA sailing club, in a meeting with The Chronicle's editorial board. "Perhaps that was too optimistic."

"Now that we've had to go out to other venues, we've got to obviously do our due diligence on that," Coutts said. "Let's wait and see what they come back with."

Just days before the Board of Supervisors was to vote on the hosting agreement, Ellison's chief negotiator said the deal had been modified without the team's approval and San Francisco was "holding on by their fingernails" as other sites were considered.

After two weeks of discussions, the city's offer remained largely unchanged.

Coutts said he has proposed roughly the same deal as for the last Cup after a real estate development component was dropped. That includes free venue space and the city covering traditional services like police and garbage collection, Coutts said.

For one thing, the city wants race organizers to pay rent. Given San Francisco's economic boom, the cash-poor port doesn't need to offer sweetheart deals for space on piers for race organizers' offices that it could rent on the open market, sources familiar with the negotiations said.

Ellison's group is also resistant to paying the equivalent of union wages for construction work on venues, sources said, which they agreed to for the last Cup. A later audit found the group owed almost $460,000 in back wages.

Full Article (http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/America-s-Cup-organizers-threaten-to-pull-race-5213128.php#page-2)

Prince of Whales
02-07-2014, 11:16 AM
Doesn't look good for SF.


02-07-2014, 05:17 PM
Just another hardball negotiating stance from OR.

02-10-2014, 09:55 AM
"Another fantasy article by Paul Lewis. 90% crap as usual (I guess I should give him credit for the 10% that's correct!). When is the NZ Herald going to get some decent reporters?"

Sir Russell Coutts


By Paul Lewis

New Zealand Herald (http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11198708)

While much attention is focused on the ongoing search for a venue for the next America's Cup in 2017, the real problem appears to be the plans by holders Oracle Team USA to limit the number of yachts going to that venue.

At present, there is talk in the America's Cup community that potential challengers are resisting OTUSA's intention that only four challengers will make the trip to San Francisco (or wherever it is decided that the Cup will next be hosted) to contest the Louis Vuitton Cup - the winner of that trophy to become the challenger to take on OTUSA for the America's Cup.

The problem, as ever, is money. To take part in the Cup, challenging syndicates need to raise money through sponsorships.

However, if there are more than four challengers, they face the prospect of seeking sponsorship dollars when the sponsor may not even be able to get exposure at the Cup if they miss out in what OTUSA are setting up essentially as qualifying rounds.

Those "qualifiers" would be the America's Cup World Series, to be sailed in 45-foot AC45 catamarans which may be upgraded to foiling yachts this time. A series of global regattas would be held with only the top four heading to the America's Cup venue with their larger America's Cup boats.

According to Cup sources, this is about as popular with challenging teams as an oil spill.

The signs are that there may well be more than four challengers. Emirates Team New Zealand, Artemis and Luna Rossa are all set to be involved along with Australia's Hamilton Island Yacht Club as the Challenger Of Record, funded by wine billionaire Bob Oatley. A British team (headed by former OTUSA team member Sir Ben Ainslie) is reported to be close to attracting enough funding to launch a challenge and a strong French challenge is syndicate forming under Yacht Club de France colours, though no signs yet that they have the money needed. Plus Korea (in particular) and China have been close to competing before.

But the word is that OTUSA backer Larry Ellison, having already spent something akin to NZ$1 billion on the Cup over a period of years, has told his chief executive, Sir Russell Coutts, to lessen Ellison's financial exposure. Asking the hosting nations in the World Series to bear the costs is one way of doing that, as is cutting the number of yachts at the Cup finals and shrinking the time taken to run the Louis Vuitton Cup and America's Cup races (the last one took place July 4-September 25).

"But you can see this from Bob Oatley's point of view," said one Cup source. "He's got to put all this money up and then gather more and he may not even get to the main event. It's a pretty hard thing to justify to sponsors - going there and asking for money and maybe not even getting to the America's Cup."

OTUSA's focus on costs also gels with an interview with Coutts in July when he talked about the need for credible challengers rather than relying on numbers.

"Let's be honest," he said then, "some of the teams in recent regattas have just been making up the numbers. There have probably been three or four teams that were a bit of a joke." He cited the first Swiss challenge in Auckland in 2000 as an example.

Meanwhile, it is not yet clear whether OTUSA's interest in other venues - San Diego has shaped as a possibility - is an effort to scare San Francisco into thinking that another US city could take their event or a genuine look at alternatives.

San Francisco's complex political landscape has seen their hosting offer reduced from last time. Official figures suggest that San Francisco taxpayers finished up US$5.5 million in the red after being told they would benefit. The 700,000 people drawn to the city over the three months spent about US$364m - rather less than the US$902m projected and way less than the $US1.4 billion originally held under the city's nose as a sweet-smelling incentive.

That has led to Coutts suggesting San Diego or Hawaii (Ellison owns the island of Lanai there) and traditional America's Cup venues like Newport, Rhode Island, could yet come into play. However, the giant catamarans favoured for the America's Cup are not deepwater craft and the big swells and deep waters of Hawaii will not suit them. Nor is there thought to be a venue there which can get spectators and cameras so close to the action to provide some of the thrills witnessed in San Francisco. San Diego, Cup sources say, could host such in-harbour racing at a pinch.

San Francisco remains everyone's favourite but, as ever with the America's Cup, if another venue comes up with the right money for Ellison and Coutts, the city's acquaintance with the Cup could be brief.

Charlie Tuna
02-10-2014, 08:44 PM

$11.5 Million in the hole isn't going to do much to change the B.O.S.'s position.

02-11-2014, 08:57 AM
Things are heating up in Hawaii!


02-11-2014, 03:09 PM

Click Here! (http://www.3news.co.nz/Dean-Barker-interview-What-went-wrong-at-the-Americas-Cup/tabid/1837/articleID/331826/Default.aspx)

NZ and OZ TV & Radio broadcaster Paul Henry interviews Dean Barker about the loss of the America's Cup to Oracle Team USA and pound the edges looking for fractures in the team unity. Paul is well known for his controversies, political incorrectness and has a slew of controversies in his PAST HISTORY (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Henry_(broadcaster))

So take this interview with a grain of salt.

02-13-2014, 11:09 AM

©martinez studio / rc 44 class


ALAMEDA, 13 February 2014 - Artemis Racing announced today that it has secured the signature of Danish sailor and former Team Origin trimmer, Christian Kamp, as the team prepares for a possible 35th America’s Cup bid.

Christian was part of Luna Rossa Challenge for the 32nd America’s Cup in 2005 before joining Team Origin in 2007. For three years he campaigned with Iain Percy in the Louis Vuitton Pacific Series, TP52 and the World Match Racing Tour, winning the World title in 2010. In recognition of his achievement, he was awarded 2010 Danish Sailor of the Year. Kamp’s career highlights include three world championships, one European and three national titles, as well as more than 20 Grade 1 Level wins in match racing. More recently he sailed on board Team Aqua as trimmer in the RC44 circuit, winning the last three consecutive seasons.

On joining the team Christian commented “I’m very excited to be joining such a talented team as Artemis Racing. It’s great to be united with old team mates such as Iain Percy, Adam May, Chris Brittle and Thiha “Winnie” Win, but also to have the opportunity to sail and work with some of the biggest natural talents in our sport in Nathan and Goobs.”

Christian has joined the team this week in the British Virgin Islands for the RC44 Virgin Gorda Cup, the first event of the 2014 RC44 Championship Tour.

Christian is joined by former ORACLE Team USA team member Richard Kent who will bring his expertise leading the Electronics unit. Kent is no stranger to the America’s Cup having competed in the last four, winning the 33rd edition with BMW ORACLE Racing in 2010 and successfully defending in San Francisco last summer. Richard also ran the electronics departments for winning Volvo Ocean Race teams ABN AMRO (2006/2007) and Ericsson Racing (2008/2009).

Artemis Racing is also delighted to welcome back Chay McIntosh, who served as Shore Team Manager in the last campaign. Chay has found success throughout his career, winning the 29th and 30th America’s Cups with Team New Zealand, and the 2008/09 Volvo Ocean Race with Ericsson Racing.

Iain Percy said “We continue to build our core team and have been working hard on securing the right people. I am very pleased to have Christian, Richard and Chay with us for the next cup; as I am sure each one of them will contribute with their talent, passion and expertise to reaching our goal. We have a very talented group from the previous challenge, but we have also been able to reinforce that experience in a number of key areas; making us much stronger. It has also been great to recognise our recent recruitments throughout the various areas of the campaign, as all contribute significantly to the end result.”

Artemis Racing announced earlier this month that it had secured the first phase of designers for the 35th America’s Cup with Michel Kermarec and Thiha “Winnie” Win joining returning designers Adam May and Nico Rousselon.

Charlie Tuna
02-20-2014, 09:13 AM
Looks like Oracle is gearing up down under!

ORACLE TEAM USA, the America’s Cup champion, will begin its sailing program in Sydney, Australia next month.

The team has scheduled practice against Team Australia, representing the Hamilton Island Yacht Club, the Challenger of Record for the 35th America’s Cup.

ORACLE TEAM USA has shipped one of its AC45 catamarans to Australia for spring training before the sailing team returns to the United States later in the year.

“This training session on Sydney Harbour is the first of a series of trials and training sessions for our sailing team and will be the first time our sailors have been together since the America's Cup,” said sailing team manager Tom Slingsby.

“We’ll welcome back some old faces and introduce some new blood as we look for the right crew combination for the sailing team for the 35th America’s Cup.

"These sessions will be coordinated with Team Australia and we're looking forward to sailing against this new Cup team.”

ORACLE TEAM USA has already announced Jimmy Spithill, the skipper, and Slingsby, the strategist and sailing team manager, will both be returning to lead the sailing team.

Further sailing crew announcements are expected before the summer.

02-20-2014, 05:29 PM
Kimball gets some more insight's on US17 comeback in AC 34 during this weeks Yachtman's Luncheon at Frank's Place

Speer spoke on Wednesday at a noontime gathering on the San Francisco cityfront, addressing wing development over the decades and, inevitably, in Q&A, the comeback. He went so far as to say, “Platform aerodynamics, I think, made the difference between the American boat and the Kiwi boat. We had that pod [below trampoline level] that effectively extended our wingspan two meters. That gave us the potential for the upwind speed that we eventually developed, and platform aerodynamics is the area in which we perhaps can make the biggest performance difference going forward.”

With that potential waiting to be exploited, and New Zealand close to clinching the win in spite of it, another key turning point in the 34th match came, gradually, as Oracle studied how to retrim to add more load to the back of the wing. “The boat had lee helm,” Speer said. “You know that kills upwind speed. It was clear that we needed to retrim, so we raked the wing aft—and no, that didn’t work. It turned out that when we powered-off the upper elements—when we added twist aloft—the center of effort shifted down and forward. There was no relief in that. So instead we opened the slot. That gave us less lift on the main element and more lift on the flap [which funnels air aft]. Over the course of the regatta we increased the traveler load by 50 percent. That eliminated lee helm, helped the boat point, and simply made us faster upwind.

“So, it was a bunch of boat-tune things that turned it around for us. Look at any one-design fleet, and the difference between the front and the back is huge. Most of that is fine tuning.”

Before we leave the subject of “slot,” we should listen to Tom Spear describe the effect of the slot from an engineer’s point of view. Here goes: “The slot allows you to go to a higher maximum lift because of the behavior of the boundary layer, which is where all your skin-friction losses occur. The boundary layer is thin, but it wants to get stuck to the wing and not move. Meanwhile, at the leading edge of the wing, the pressure is very low. Toward the trailing edge, pressure increases. There is a tendency to push the boundary layer toward lower pressure—push it forward on the wing—and that’s where you get flow separating from the surface and a big dropoff in lift. With a slot-and-flap arrangement, you are basically dumping slow air from the lead element into high-velocity air around the flap. Or, let’s say that you are taking one bottom layer and handing it off to a fresh bottom layer on the flap.”

Wings have been a fascination in this space for years, but in Spear’s figuring, “Wing development has hit a plateau. [in only one AC cycle, after decades in C-cats and A-cats!]. Given the motivation to control costs, it’s likely the next design rule will constrain the design of the wing so that teams don’t have to spend so much in that area.” Again, if you’ve been paying attention, you’ve heard the talk in high places about making all or, more likely, parts of the wing one design.


Dirty Sanchez
02-20-2014, 10:41 PM
Franks Place! Love it!

Little by little, the competition learns the subtle secrets!

02-21-2014, 09:24 PM
CNBC Reports the Ben Ainslie Racing is not quite yet a shoe in to make the next AC Cycle:

Much has been said of Olympic sailing gold medalist Sir Ben Ainslie's ambitions for the America's Cup and his plan to raise $100 million for a team at the world's most prestigious sailing event – but is a British team at the America's Cup a realistic expectation?

After Larry Ellison's Oracle team – of which Ainslie was a member – won last year's America's Cup in a breath-taking comeback finale, focus is back on the high-octane sport of sailing and the lineup for the next Cup.
But with a personal fortune of $41 billion can anyone compete with Ellison's financial fire power?

Ainslie was clear that his bid for the Cup is in the spirit of competition, noting that Ellison himself supports the bid. "He's very supportive of our team model... we're really the first team other than Emirates Team New Zealand who are trying to be predominantly a commercially-backed team," Ainslie said at the opening of the Extreme Sailing Series in Singapore.

If successful, Ainslie's team would be the first British team to participate in the America's Cup in its 163 year history.

Generous investors

Ainslie's fundraising has met with surprising success thus far amid a heightened level of national pride following the London 2012 Olympics.

"There's obviously a lot of support there to see a British team and we've really been able to build on that to bring in the right private investors and potential commercial partners to start building the team," he said.

The aim of Ainslie's plan is to reach about 40 percent of the budget through private investors. So far they have about 70 percent of that amount underwritten.

Even Ainslie's team at the Extreme Sailing series has the support of British investors with the use of chase boats from UK Rib builder, Scorpion RIBs

It has to be realistic

Larry Ellison may have spent a magnificent sum – speculated to be around $300 million – on last year's winning team but he has certainly fostered a sense of competition in the Cup. It's just a case of whether the next season will be affordable for a range of competitors.

Details of the race stipulations and boat design for the next Americas' Cup – which will be key for deciding the cost of running a campaign – are expected to be released in March.

"We haven't committed to go forward yet," said Ainslie. "If they say that to have a chance to win, the budget will be $300-500 million then we will not be able to raise that."

Ainslie's all-British team JP Morgan BAR won 2 races in the first day of the Extreme Sailing Series and are currently ranked 5th. There will be another 250 races before the winner is decided in Sydney in December 2014.


Carl Spackler
02-23-2014, 09:33 PM
C'mon POM's, toss in a shilling or two!

Buzz Light Beer
02-24-2014, 01:01 PM

Uncle Larry donates $100 million to end polio. Bravo!

03-04-2014, 07:30 AM

Look who is ready to go sailing!

David Gilmore photo

PD Staff
03-05-2014, 04:26 PM

We have learned that Mathew Belcher, the 32 year old gold medalist in the 470 Australian Olympic sailing team has been selected to skipper the Team Australia entry for the 35th America's Cup as announced earlier today at a press conference.



The Aussie AC 45 get rigged and ready to practice. Tom Slingsby and crew will be working the Oracle Racing 45 alongside Team Australia in the days and weeks to come

El Capitan
03-05-2014, 11:17 PM
Fresh blood for a new campaign. Will Oracle ship 2 boats to Sydney?

03-05-2014, 11:37 PM

Andrea Francolini grabbed this sweet shot of Team Australia mixing it up with Oracle this afternoon!

Tom Slingsby says they will be there until August and run 4 camps...Training and team trials....


03-06-2014, 02:50 PM
Skipper Jimmy Spithill and tactician/sailing team manager Tom Slingsby have introduced the crew who are participating in the team’s first training camp of the new America’s Cup cycle.

In addition to Spithill and Slingsby, ORACLE TEAM USA opens training camp in Sydney, Australia this week with sailors Andrew Campbell, Kinley Fowler, Rome Kirby, Kyle Langford, Joey Newton, and Joe Spooner.

Philippe Presti will be returning to the team as coach.

“I’m excited that we’ve managed to assemble this group,” said skipper Jimmy Spithill. “Most of the guys were on board for the last America’s Cup, so they’ve been battle-tested and know what to expect. Andrew Campbell joins us as a very talented, motivated, American sailor who has proven he knows how to win in the Olympic classes. I think we have a good combination.”

Campbell, 30, is a 10-time national champion who represented the United States at the 2008 Olympic Games in the Laser class. This will be his first America’s Cup team.

“It’s a thrill to be joining ORACLE TEAM USA,” Campbell said. “The talent level and experience on this crew is second to none. This is a group of guys who have been together through some serious obstacles and they’ve won the ultimate prize in our sport. For me these first days will be about learning the systems, getting some hours in on the boat and spending time with the guys to form those bonds that are so important as a team.”

The sailing team is scheduled to be on the water from Friday March 7 through Sunday March 16. On Thursday, the team participated in a sparring session on Sydney Harbour in AC45 catamarans with Team Australia, who launched its program with a ceremony earlier in the day.

Other practice sessions are anticipated with Team Australia, the Challenger of Record for the 35th America’s Cup, who is also training in Sydney over the same time period.


Prince of Whales
03-07-2014, 12:35 PM
The Aussies seem determined, curious as to why ETNZ thinks a Volvo campaign will help with their AC campaign?

The Extreme 40 series, yes, Volvo? Unsure.


Dutch Rudder
03-10-2014, 09:23 AM

Ellison's new vision has Honolulu as the final destination.

03-10-2014, 10:32 AM
Ellison looking at Hawaii for AC35;

As for the next Cup, "we're going to start with two years of globe-trotting, Formula One-style racing in AC45s," Ellison said. "AC45s are inexpensive to build, transport, and sail. You can throw an AC45 and its support equipment and chase boats into a couple of containers and ship them to regattas all over the world: Shanghai, Tokyo Bay, Marseilles, the Port of Rome, anywhere."

Ellison continued, "By using AC45s, we keep the costs to a manageable level, so we expect to have 12 teams entered in the 35th America's Cup. The teams will be divided up into two divisions: Atlantic and Pacific. The Atlantic division will have teams from France, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Sweden, and Switzerland. The Pacific Division will have teams from Australia, China, Japan, Korea, New Zealand, and San Francisco, USA."

Under Ellison's plan, the top four finishers in the AC45 races during 2015 and 2016, two from the Atlantic group and two from the Pacific, would qualify to race in their division championships in the spring of 2017. The division championships would be contested in the new AC60s, a lot bigger than the AC45s and just as spectacular and fast as the AC72s, but not as expensive. (The AC72s were sailed in the 34th Cup.)


IOR Geezer
03-10-2014, 11:51 AM
Well Aloha to you too! The biggest fly in the ointment would be the foiling boats and Humpbacks.
Somehow I suspected Mr Ellison would engage Lanai and his 2 airlines into the picture.

Reckon I might do the same if I were in the same boat.

03-10-2014, 12:10 PM
we expect to have 12 teams entered in the 35th America's Cup.

That's what they said last time.

The Flash
03-10-2014, 12:39 PM
If I read it correctly however, only 4 challengers are expected to pony up for 60s. I think getting 12 to races 45s shouldn't be too hard.

03-10-2014, 02:48 PM
But what happens of a "Division Champion" or semi-finalist can't afford an AC-60, which are not one-design? Or breaks their boat?

Not convinced that all the Hawaii talk is not just to light a fire under the SF politicians.

IOR Geezer
03-10-2014, 03:37 PM
Uncle Larry keeps the cup for another cycle.

Everybody wins!

Charlie Tuna
03-10-2014, 08:46 PM
I wonder if the governor is giving Larry Ali Wai Marina as part of the deal?

03-11-2014, 10:02 AM

ORACLE TEAM USA's Tom Slingsby and Andrew Campbell talk about the first days of training on Sydney Harbour as the sailing team gets together for the first time since winning the America's Cup last September.

03-13-2014, 07:38 AM
Published on Mar 13, 2014

ALAMEDA, 13 March 2014 - Artemis Racing announced today that French sailing legend Loïck Peyron has committed his future to the Swedish team as a member of the design group and helmsman. Following his role as technical coach and helmsman during the 34th America's Cup, Loïck brings his renowned versatility and unparalleled experience to Artemis Racing.

On rejoining the team Loïck commented "I have been involved in two America's Cups, but always just for the final year of the campaign. What's great about today is that I'm with a team I really like, at the beginning of the game, when there is a blank piece of paper and everyone's heads are burning with excitement. With Alinghi I had the chance to spend the final 12 months with a team that had dominated the America's Cup for a number of years; and with Artemis Racing; it feels like I'm now involved with a team that will be the dominant force of the future".

Peyron, who joined Artemis Racing in 2012, had a key role in developing the team's ability to sail the AC72 during last campaign.

Commenting on his new role "the America's Cup is a story of communication, a melting pot of different cultures; not just in terms of nationality but also in terms of sailing culture. I like to buzz everywhere, that's the way a solo sailor has to live, because you need to have the answer to any question or any situation. I'm very happy to act as backup helmsman but also really looking forward to offering support in other areas of the campaign" said Loïck.

Loïck is one of the most experienced and successful multihull sailors in history, having crossed the Atlantic 48 times including eighteen single-handedly. He has an outstanding record of achievement: five ORMA champion titles, sixteen Grand Prix victories, three Single-handed Transatlantic Race victories and two victories in the Transat Jacques Vabre in 1999 and 2005. In 2011 he won the Barcelona World Race in a monohull, went on to win the Trophée SNSM, and then set the Round Britain and Ireland record aboard the Banque Populair V maxi-trimaran.

On the 6th January 2012, he won the Jules Verne Trophy setting the record for the fastest circumnavigation of the world in just 45 days with Banque Populaire V.

The 35th America's Cup will be his third campaign: in 2010, Loïck was co-skipper of Alinghi, the Swiss challenge for the 33rd America's Cup. Before joining Artemis Racing for the 34th America's Cup, he was the skipper of Energy Team France in the 2011-12 America's Cup World Series (ACWS).

Helmsman Nathan Outteridge commented "it's great that we have been able to retain so much talent from the last campaign, to keep the consistency. To be able to tap into Loïck's unrivalled experience of multihull sailing, and his connection not just with the sailors but with the designers as well, is a big skill to have within the team".

03-13-2014, 08:31 AM
Team Energy wasn't his program? I thought they skipped last cycle to focus on this cycle?

03-14-2014, 08:46 AM
Great to see Loick back with Artemis - they have a solid core group of talent.

03-16-2014, 01:04 PM

Artemis out on the 45 running through the paces...Nathan on helm, Percy grinding, Stu Bethany, Ian Jensen and (?)



03-17-2014, 09:41 AM
I saw them zooming around Saturday. Maybe they just wanted in on the nice weather? They did not used to come out on weekends. I thought they might be trying out foiling, but they seemed to be in standard config, just trying to keep the rust from accumulating I guess.

Charlie Tuna
03-17-2014, 04:52 PM
Trying out the new guys

03-20-2014, 11:34 AM


We were extremely lucky to have caught Loïck Peyron at the Alameda base for Artemis Racing yesterday
as their 1st session of AC 45 training was coming to an end, and core crew members were packing up to
return home of wherever the next venue called from. Along with Nathan Outteridge, Iain Percy, Iain "Goobs"Jensen,
Stu Bethany, Chris Brittle, and Red Bull Youth AC team graduate Niclas During, the sails and a skeleton crew
dusted of the old AC 45s and got back to work.



The team will be working in cycles, and for all intents and purposes expect to be doing a lot of their sailing,
training, testing and development from the Alameda base, which is leased for the next 3 years. "Its a perfect
venue for us" said Loïck, "The weather, the base, the wind is dependable, so why not"? On this day the last day of winter, with temps
in the 70's and 12-15 knots easing across the facilities, it was hard to argue.




The plan is to stay small, size wise, until the venue for the 35th America's Cup is announced, and cycle the core team through training
sessions out of Alameda, with rotation of hopefuls to keep mind and body in shape, and some small scale testing and development. We
were asked not to reveal and delicate parts and pieces, but new ideas and concepts are already being evaluated vis-a-vis the two boat
program. A new open door policy is also a promising addition for this cycle, with more open house events, base tours and public communication,
press releases and better media relations.

With Oracle Racing content to train in Sydney Harbor and then Hamilton Island, and the very distinct possibility their whole program could move
elsewhere, the Artemis program just might be the sole SF Bay America's Cup fix the local AC junkies might have for a while!



03-22-2014, 12:00 PM
Sounds like the venue may not be finalized till the end of the year - I'd say that decreases SF's chances considerably.

03-23-2014, 05:14 PM
In an affidavit signed last Thursday in Supreme Court of New York, Sam Hollis acting as a representative of the GGYC informed the court that their is no intention for the defender
(Oracle Team USA) to hold a defender series, thus eliminating African Diaspora Maritime's contention that they should be allowed to enter into such and event, should they be planning a repeat of the complaint prior to the 34th America's Cup.


03-23-2014, 06:01 PM
Would love to see a potential defender candidate develop a boat anyway and have them change their mind later on with stipulations that ADM could not meet :).

03-24-2014, 09:20 AM
Good article by Iain Percy - My goals have changed;


Charlie Tuna
03-27-2014, 09:16 AM
I wonder when Putin will claim all of Gunvors assets.

04-11-2014, 12:56 PM

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge joined Emirates Team New Zealand today for a taste of match racing on Auckland Harbour.

With crowds lining vantage points around the Viaduct and the harbour, the Duke at the helm of NZL68 and the Duchess on NZL41 – both boats from the America’s Cup monohull era – had two races on the inner harbour.

Grant Dalton called tactics for The Duke, Dean Barker for the Duchess.

The race yachts – now owned by Explore Group – were crewed by a mix of Emirates Team New Zealand members, RNZYS youth training scheme members and young sailors form Auckland yacht clubs.



all images © chris cameron/etnz


The Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron laid a course between the bridge and Princes Wharf. Rain was in the air; a heavy shower passed over when they arrived at the Viaduct Harbour, and there was not a lot of breeze.

Racing got underway shortly before 2pm. The rain had stopped and a west-southwesterly breeze filled in enough to ensure some good racing.

Everyone agreed the result didn’t matter, but for the record Team Duchess won both races. And just like the real America’s Cup, there was no second. Team Duke is unlikely to debrief the racing tonight.

- See more at: http://etnzblog.com/#!2014/04/team-duchess-wins-there-is-no-second

Dumass Head
04-11-2014, 05:55 PM
As far as royalty goes, I think Kate is very nice.

Why is she hanging out with nerd boy though?

Old Codger
04-12-2014, 03:59 PM
"Everyone agreed the result didn’t matter". BS. Think ETNZ can keep her on helm for the next AC? After all she just took two straight.

04-16-2014, 07:18 AM
hahahaa great image!!!

04-16-2014, 07:21 AM
I just heard something about some Oracle sailor being suspended... iz dat true? saludos from warm SOL in Andalucia!!

04-22-2014, 10:10 AM
Shirley Robert's report for CNN's Mainsail on the RC44 class, Russell Coutts and how it all ties in with the America's Cup. Slightly dated, but worth a look!


Part 1 (http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/sports/2014/03/15/spc-mainsail-russell-coutts-a.cnn.html)


Part 2 (http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/sports/2014/03/15/spc-mainsail-russell-coutts-b.cnn.html)


Part 3 (http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/sports/2014/03/15/spc-mainsail-russell-coutts-c.cnn.html)

04-24-2014, 03:36 PM
Good inputs here - one boat per team, box design for the wing, and Telegraph Hill residents will be excluded from watching the event from any form of media, which should make them happy.


04-24-2014, 05:02 PM
Good inputs here - one boat per team, box design for the wing, and Telegraph Hill residents will be excluded from watching the event from any form of media, which should make them happy.


I wonder how accurate the information is considering he constantly refers to defenders when he is speaking about challengers...

Prince of Whales
04-25-2014, 08:43 AM
Wonder when team Ellison/Coutts are going to make the call on the venue?

04-25-2014, 09:09 AM
Wonder when team Ellison/Coutts are going to make the call on the venue?

Towards the end of the year, which increases the likelihood it won't be held in SF. My bet is Hawaii.

05-06-2014, 02:18 PM

Dogzilla Unleashed? Her compound cradle lies empty at Pier 80 in San Francisco


Whats does this I spy, Dogzilla getting ready to sail? Hmmmmm




Hmmm... no mast...cranes are no where to bee seen....



Final destination? A non descript office complex on the SF Peninsula?


And these workers...what is that they are installing?


Sort of restraining device...but how dey gonna do dat?

...Stay tuned....


Buzz Light Beer
05-06-2014, 03:16 PM
Great work pb, looks like Larry's duckpond wont be void of visual stimulation for long.

05-07-2014, 06:48 PM

It's ON!!!

F18 5150
05-07-2014, 08:50 PM
Just heard that from Someone at Oracle.

F18 5150
05-09-2014, 01:58 PM
Sky crane helo is in place at the airfield next to Redwood Shores Drive. Mast is just outside Oracle on a semi. 50 Meter mast it looks like with a large crane there.

05-09-2014, 09:54 PM
Let's hope EB isn't the pilot - it may wind up in the stick instead.

05-10-2014, 10:23 AM

05-10-2014, 12:19 PM


Giddy Up! ;)

Photo Boy Galleria d DoGzilla Relocations (http://photos.conti.net/Events/Oracle-Team-USA-17-Move/39719047_T455Wj#!i=3235560567&k=vRn3JF5)

05-10-2014, 05:08 PM

Brad Webb ran the bow on this beast and took this photo of the big dog on its supports this afternoon



Reid Conti took some snaps including the big Mud Puppy playing in Belmont Slough earlier today...

More Pics Here (http://photos.conti.net/Events/Oracle-Team-USA-17-Move/39719047_T455Wj#!i=3235560567&k=vRn3JF5)

IOR Geezer
05-11-2014, 09:04 AM
Well done guys, it must have been something to be there and watch a piece of history flying in.

I wonder how many Oracle employees actually were aware of the dog and cat fight at the time.

05-11-2014, 02:58 PM

The view from Uncle Larry's office


The stick is stuck!

images © Brad Webb DoG Moving LTD

05-12-2014, 12:32 PM

Oracle put a photog up in a a Bell Jest to follow the sky crane and these are some of the snap they just posted...No photog was credited...enjoy!








The Flash
05-12-2014, 03:35 PM
Drove by on 101 today. You can see the rig from the freeway. Might be the angle, but it looks as tall as the taller building. Impressive.

05-13-2014, 09:37 AM


With the recent commotion regarding the DoGzilla relocation, our friendly photog from the PNW, Sean Trew's memory was jolted into flashback mode, and he pulled a few easily accessible frames from 2008, the 1st days the mammoth trimaran slipped into the waters off Anacortes for test sails.

"I remember how gun shy the crew was with the rig, which came out the 1st day in fractional sail mode. They still did not know what the loads would be and were taking it very conservatively. The 2nd sail the went masthead and the boat accelerated to 20-22
knots in 8-11 true wind, truly ground breaking speeds" Sean recalls

Sean struggled to keep up in his whaler but did manage to get some great snaps regardless.

Sean has more or less retired from chasing sailboats and now enjoys the vast open spaces of the back country where he still finds nuggets in places remote and void of the thundering herd...






IOR Geezer
05-13-2014, 10:13 AM
Brings back memories long forgotten with all this foiling business.

Thank you Sean!

Charlie Tuna
05-13-2014, 11:02 AM
Had forgotten all about the soft sail.

Nice work Sean!


05-13-2014, 03:20 PM

The Official Oracle Video of Dogzilla's Big Lift

05-15-2014, 04:23 PM

Bermuda has been shortlisted in its bid to host the 2017 America’s Cup, the world’s most prestigious sailing competition.

The Island is now one of four locations being considered by the America’s Cup Event Authority, which is the organizing body for the Cup’s 35th competition, the world’s oldest international sailing trophy.

Bermuda’s bid to host the competition started in March following an invitation from the Authority to place a bid.

“This is a great opportunity for Bermuda on many levels,” Premier Craig Cannonier said. “The America’s Cup is a spectacular sporting event attracting worldwide attention, generating business, jobs and extensive television exposure for the host location.

“It is a great opportunity to showcase Bermuda on the world stage – our people, our island, our rich maritime heritage, our way of life.

“I want to commend the work of the bid team put together by Dr. Grant Gibbons, the Minister of Education and Economic Development. They worked fast and hard to put together an impressive bid document in a short period of time. Their work will continue as we continue to pursue this remarkable opportunity.”

Representatives of the America’s Cup Event Authority visited the Island in March to inspect possible event locations and racecourses in The Great Sound. Following the invitation to bid for the race, Dr. Gibbons organized a small bid team with representatives from the private sector, the Bermuda Government and the Bermuda Tourism Authority.

“The team worked flat-out for three weeks to put together an extraordinary bid document that we submitted to the Authority,” Dr. Gibbons said. “We were subsequently informed that Bermuda had been moved to the second round in which our bid would be considered against three other locations.

“Our team is now in the process of working with the America’s Cup Event Authority to secure corporate sponsorships, which are a prime requirement in determining the successful final bid.”

In the next month or so, the Authority will narrow the selection to just two possible locations, with the final decision by September. If Bermuda is successful in being selected as one of two final locations, it will be assured a World Series event, which is part of the challenger series for the Cup, regardless of whether it is ultimately successful in its bid to host the finals.

Dr. Gibbons said the America’s Cup interest in Bermuda was an extraordinary honour, reflecting the many attributes that make the Island special.

“I was proud of the fact that our submission made clear that our bid was coming from the Island as a whole not just a town or city, and that Bermuda’s history showed our ability as a people to unite behind historical moments and opportunities.

“Our bid addressed Bermuda’s attributes for hosting such an event and highlighted the Island’s maritime heritage, including the fact that the Bermuda rig revolutionized sailing and continues in use today.

“It was a presentation, in short, that emphasized the fact that Bermuda is an island with a proud maritime legacy providing a spectacular setting for such an international event.

“The Premier and I look forward to keeping Bermuda updated on the work to secure this extraordinary opportunity.”


Honey Badger
05-15-2014, 10:16 PM
Did Larry buy Bermuda too?

06-03-2014, 10:35 AM

“We’re going to have our work cut out for us, that’s for sure.”

So says ORACLE TEAM USA skipper Jimmy Spithill as he assesses the competition for the 35th America’s Cup.

Today, the Protocol was released, which defines the rules, format and commercial regulations for the 35th America’s Cup. Entries open on June 9th and close August 8th, 2014, giving prospective teams two months to enter.

See what the teams are saying

The Class Rule for the new AC62 yacht, which has already been shared with teams in draft format, will be issued in the coming days, prior to the entry period opening.

Highlights of the Protocol include:

* A three year racing program from 2015 to 2017 with every race counting towards qualification and/or points in the final America’s Cup Match

* At least six America’s Cup World Series events per year in 2015 and 2016 to be raced in the AC45 class. All teams have an opportunity to host an event in their home country

* An America’s Cup Qualifiers series in 2017 involving all teams, with a bonus point in the America’s Cup Match at stake

* America’s Cup Challenger Playoffs for the top four challenger teams to emerge from the Qualifiers

* The America’s Cup Match, featuring the defender, ORACLE TEAM USA against the top challenger. The first team to win 7 points will win the America’s Cup

* Up to two Youth America’s Cup events providing a pathway for young sailors to join the top rank of professionals

* The new AC62 yacht – a foiling, wing sail catamaran sailed by 8 crew – to be raced in all events in 2017

* A crew nationality rule requiring at least 25% of the AC62 crew to be nationals of the country of their challenge

The Protocol was negotiated between defending champion ORACLE TEAM USA and its Golden Gate Yacht Club and Team Australia’s Hamilton Island Yacht Club, the Challenger of Record.

The 35th America’s Cup builds on the successful elements of the last America’s Cup – fast, exciting racing in foiling multihulls that is challenging for the best sailors in the world and appealing to spectators.

“We are convinced the 35th America’s Cup will surpass previous events in almost every way: more challengers, amazing new boats and a competition structure that will engage and enthrall people over a three year period,” said Mat Belcher, the skipper of Team Australia, the Challenger of Record.

For his part, Spithill is aware that a stronger group of challengers will make it that much more difficult for his team to hold on to the Cup.

“It’s the America’s Cup, so it’s not supposed to be easy, but our goal is to make it a three-peat,” says Spithill, who led his team to victory in 2010 and 2013. “It was so close last time. Battling back to win from being down 8-1 is something we will never forget and I expect it will be just as difficult this time.”

The entry period is open from June 9th to August 8th 2014.

Protocol PDF HERE (http://ac.mueva.eu/media/files/m187_protocol-for-ac35.pdf)

06-03-2014, 12:26 PM
Repeated use of terms "world series" , "playoffs", "match" would seem they want to distance themselves as much as possible from traditional terms "regatta" or even "yacht race".

Charlie Tuna
06-03-2014, 09:10 PM
Good to see the Youth America's Cup incased in the protocol.

Will the less rich programs have enough funds?

06-05-2014, 09:51 AM

In less than 48 hours since the AC 35 Protocol has been announced, the tongues have been busy wagging, the fingers typing and vitriol flowing, here are some samples:

The New Zealand Herald (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11267272)

Oracle will be allowed to build two 62-foot cats. It can conduct two-boat training during the America's Cup Playoffs for the challengers, but then must sail its first boat in the match. If there's a catastrophic failure, it can use its second boat in the match. If the winner of the challenger series has a serious breakdown and can't sail in the match, the runner-up will advance.

"This was quite a big argument," said Iain Murray, who heads Team Australia, the Challenger of Record that helped set the rules.

Murray said the challengers are just happy to have rules so they can raise money and go sailing.

"I'm sure there are some things people probably would prefer would be different, and there are a lot of things that are going to be quite new," Murray said from Australia. "The event's changed a lot in a short period of time. There are probably a lot of different circumstances going forward in this event."

Sail Worlds (http://www.sail-world.com/index.cfm?nid=122887) Richard Gladwell is even more critical:

Only the top four Teams will proceed to sail in the America's Cup Finals at the event venue. The Challengers will have to sail a series elsewhere, which has been previously condemned as unworkable by many due to the difficulties that creates for sponsor exposure. The venue and dates for the 35th Match will be announced by December 31, 2014.

The Defender appointed and controlled America's Cup Event Authority will conduct the selection process for the Challenger Play-Off's round. It is not clear how far in advance of the Finals this will be scheduled. Of course, Challengers will have to launch their boat well in advance of the play-off's, work it up, and then take the same boat to the match venue, sail a further series of races, and then one will go on to compete in the Match - all sailing just the one boat.

The timing of the Play-off stage of the America's Cup has not been announced. The teams will not be able to launch their AC62 until 150 days before the start of the Play-offs.

Jury gone
The International Jury has gone and been replaced by a three person Arbitration Panel chosen from Court of Arbitration of Sport. The powers of the Arbitration Panel are limited. The America's Cup organisers have yet to conclude an arrangement with the world sailing body. It is not clear who will actually adjudicate on Racing Rule infringements, in the Protocol the Umpires are expected to adjudicate on racing rule decisions. The proposed system is the same as that used in the 2000 and 2003 America's Cups. The rationale then was to set up an arbitration body to keep issues out of the Courts, and the cut-off between the Arbitration Panel and the Int Jury was that the former handled Protocol related issues and the latter handled racing rule issues, but there were issues when both the Protocol and Racing Rules applied to a case.

One of the most disturbing aspects of the Protocol is that all officials are appointed by the Defender, and can be removed at any time by the Defender, the exception being members of the Arbitration Panel who can only be removed by the Defender and Challenger of Record. The costs of officials are now to be shared amongst the competitors, yet the right of hire and fire rest solely with the Defender.

Dana Johannsen (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11268076) is always rubbing the fur the wrong way and suggests ETNZ actually boycott this round:

Team New Zealand should not enter the next America's Cup.

Considering the Kiwi syndicate's long association with the event, and how agonisingly close Dean Barker and his crew got to snatching the Auld Mug away from Oracle last September, that is not an easy statement to make. But scouring the 78-page document released yesterday outlining the rules for the next America's Cup, it is difficult to find a compelling reason for Emirates Team NZ to be involved.

The terms imposed by defenders Oracle Team USA are among the most self-serving rules that have been tabled in the 163-year history of the event. Team NZ, and the other potential challengers should not play any part in it.

The changes, while significant, do not come as a surprise. Many of the contentious proposals for the next event had been sign-posted by Oracle Team USA's billionaire owner, Larry Ellison, in an interview in March. At the time many of the challengers expressed their reservations about some of the new elements being proposed.

The issues raised were not simply petty nit-picking -- as can tend to happen in the America's Cup, where teams have been known to spend tens of thousands of dollars bickering over mere inches -- they were pointing out genuine flaws in the defenders' plans. The organisers do not appear to have listened to any of those concerns.

The SF Chronicle (http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Rules-set-for-2017-America-s-Cup-but-site-5526399.php) seemed a bit more diplomatic, but did allude to a narrowing down of host cities for the finals:

Whether the final rounds will be back in San Francisco remains to be decided. Cup officials have not reached an agreement with city officials and are considering other options, including San Diego and Bermuda, according to Tom Ehman, vice commodore of the Golden Gate Yacht Club.

"Hawaii is out, and Newport (R.I.) is out," Ehman said. He said he's "cautiously optimistic" the event will return to San Francisco and added that most of the prospective challengers he has talked to "hope and expect" the final rounds to be held here.

Spithill said he has loved living and sailing in San Francisco. "It's one of the best cities in the world," he said. "Sailing in the bay is really challenging. Having said that, I want to go to a place that really loves the America's Cup. With this protocol, we can make this commercially sustainable."

Asked if he thought San Francisco "really loves" this event, he said, "The people who watched it do." As for the city fathers, he said, "I'm not sure. I haven't been that involved in the venue."

Talks with San Francisco are expected to resume Friday.

06-05-2014, 10:12 AM
The constant, never ending, tedious, nasty, bitching and moaning about any and all aspects of this circus make it one of those...
"who cares?" events.

IOR Geezer
06-05-2014, 10:33 AM
.......and the beat goes on...............

I can do without all the malfeasance, its refreshing when the races actually occur. I wonder if anyone has ever broke down
the actual races in a cost / man hour analysis. How much time and money went into each race, when all was said and done?

06-06-2014, 04:51 PM

America's Cup: Four venues shortlisted for 2017 event

San Francisco, San Diego, Chicago or Bermuda are all vying to stage the America's Cup finals in 2017.

San Francisco was also the setting for last year's race, won in dramatic fashion by Oracle Team USA, which featured Sir Ben Ainslie.
A final decision is due by the end of the year.


Ainslie, a four-time Olympic champion, hopes to challenge for the America's Cup with his own British team, based in the south of England.
Russell Coutts, chief executive of Oracle Team USA, says all four locations are "very motivated" to host one of sailing's biggest events.

Sir Ben Ainslie looks to base America's Cup team in south of England
But he says there are a number of factors under consideration, including the public interest in sailing at each venue and the potential for sponsorship and other commercial activities.

The time zone is also a consideration.

The West Coast of the United States is around eight hours behind most of Europe, where many of the teams, sponsors and fans are based.

Being further east, Chicago and particularly Bermuda have an advantage and may be able to offer more attractive racing times for European TV viewers.
Next Tuesday, Ainslie is due to launch a British team that will attempt to challenge for the America's Cup.

The 36-year-old was credited for inspiring Oracle Team USA to last year's dramatic America's Cup win over Team New Zealand.
He was drafted in as tactician and helped reverse an 8-1 deficit.


06-07-2014, 07:31 AM

06-08-2014, 06:45 PM
Chicago - where Larry Ellison grew up
Chicago - home of the Chicago Match Race Center
Chicago - where the lake is 300+ miles long and 50+ miles wide - enough for any windward-leward
Chicago - where there's no current and not much wind - except when there's lots of wind for minutes at a time
Chicago - ninety minutes from the Harken and Melges HQs
Chicago - on the Great Lakes where Santa Cruz 70s retire as gentlemen
Chicago - where the local distance race (~Coastal Cup) gets 200-300 entrants
Chicago - where you can hike all day and not be covered in salt when you get to the bar
Chicago - where the sailing is great - once the ice melts

Kris O
06-09-2014, 08:26 PM
Chicago - where Larry Ellison grew up
Chicago - home of the Chicago Match Race Center
Chicago - where the lake is 300+ miles long and 50+ miles wide - enough for any windward-leward
Chicago - where there's no current and not much wind - except when there's lots of wind for minutes at a time
Chicago - ninety minutes from the Harken and Melges HQs
Chicago - on the Great Lakes where Santa Cruz 70s retire as gentlemen
Chicago - where the local distance race (~Coastal Cup) gets 200-300 entrants
Chicago - where you can hike all day and not be covered in salt when you get to the bar
Chicago - where the sailing is great - once the ice melts

Where the closest place to have a base would be next to a steel mill
Where they cancel racing if its blowing over 20
Where racing takes place so far off shore it takes boats an hour to motor to the start
Where the politics make SF look like a church social
Where the biting flies draw blood

06-09-2014, 09:17 PM
They do have deep dish, if you are into that sorta thing.

06-09-2014, 11:09 PM
Where the closest place to have a base would be next to a steel mill
Where they cancel racing if its blowing over 20
Where racing takes place so far off shore it takes boats an hour to motor to the start
Where the politics make SF look like a church social
Where the biting flies draw blood

You've clearly never sailed there. Only the bit about the flies is close to true. I don't mind snark, but snark with no truth?

Kris O
06-10-2014, 07:14 AM
wrong, lived and sailed there for 10 years and still fly in for the major regattas, however will be missing the Mac this year due to work commitments.

The Flash
06-10-2014, 09:08 AM
damn those flies!!!

Dutch Rudder
06-10-2014, 09:14 AM

SF out of the running?

PD Staff
06-10-2014, 09:26 AM
10th June 2014 – Sir Ben Ainslie, one of Britain’s best sailors, today launched his bid to win the America’s Cup, the 163-year old trophy never won by Great Britain. The Duchess of Cambridge, a keen sailor herself, attended the launch at the Royal Museums Greenwich to show her support for the campaign.


The four-time Olympic gold medal winner, Sir Ben, who announced his challenge with Yacht Squadron Racing, said: “This is the last great historic sporting prize never won by Great Britain. It has always been my ambition to mount a home challenge. The time is right and I am hugely encouraged by the support we are getting, not least from the Duchess of Cambridge. I learned a great deal aboard Oracle in San Francisco and I would not be challenging if I did not believe we have a real chance of winning this time.”

Ainslie became the world’s most successful Olympic sailor after winning a fourth gold medal in London 2012, and quickly turned his attention to his long term ambition – winning the America’s Cup for Britain. In 2013, Ainslie became the first Briton to be part of a winning America’s Cup team in 110 years with ORACLE TEAM USA. He played a vital role in one of the greatest comebacks sport has ever seen, overturning an 8:1 deficit to Team New Zealand, and allowing the USA to retain the trophy. Now Ainslie is planning to take the trophy from the Americans in 2017, and bring the America’s Cup back to Britain with his team, Ben Ainslie Racing (BAR).

Sir Charles Dunstone, Chairman of BAR’s Board said: “This campaign is about righting a wrong. We have never won it. We have an amazing maritime history. The Cup has to come home, we have to do that.”

The team announced that it will be representing Yacht Squadron Racing, which is affiliated to the Royal Yacht Squadron, and it means that should BAR be successful and win the Cup for Britain it will bring it back to Cowes and the place where it all began 163 years ago. Royal Yacht Squadron Commodore, Christopher Sharples, said, “We are absolutely delighted to be working with our member Sir Ben Ainslie in his patriotic quest to bring the America’s Cup back to Britain. Since losing the original race in 1851, the Squadron have made a number of unsuccessful attempts to win the Cup, the previous and most recent occasion was in 1958. Sir Ben has impressed us with his incredible track record, his total commitment, his ability to build a most impressive management team and recruit some of the world’s top sailors and designers with the relevant experience.”


BAR has been in gestation since 2011, when Ainslie first started to look ahead to life beyond the Olympics. He spoke with ORACLE TEAM USA (OTUSA) CEO, Russell Coutts with the sole intention of trying to buy an AC45 multihull to compete in the 2012/13 America’s Cup World Series. Coutts had a better idea and instead offered him a job with the Americans. Ainslie subsequently negotiated both a role with OTUSA and his own World Series entry for BAR. It worked out well for both OTUSA and Ainslie, who gathered crucial experience; and as a result of circumstances, found himself substituted onto the US boat in the tactician’s role for the 34th America’s Cup.

The spectacular 9:8 OTUSA victory provided the perfect springboard for Ainslie to return to the UK and seek support for a British effort. The first meetings last October were with Sir Charles Dunstone and Sir Keith Mills, their unwavering commitment gave Ainslie the courage to push on to find other private investors to build a viable British challenge. Subsequent backing came in the form of Chris Bake, Peter Dubens, Lord Irvine Laidlaw, Ian Taylor and Jon Wood. Ex-head of the BBC, Channel 4 and ITV and a keen sailor, Lord Michael Grade was asked and agreed to take on the role as an independent board member alongside Linklaters Chairman and Senior Partner Robert Elliott.

The early investment was critical to building a successful team behind the scenes with the America’s Cup predominantly being a design contest. Following the 2013 Cup, the transfer market for the top design talent was predictably hot, but the private investor funding already achieved made it possible to attract several top names.

Technical Director and two-time America’s Cup winner Andy Claughton (GBR) will lead the design team. Initial signings include six-time America’s Cup winners Dirk Kramers (NED/USA) and four times winner Clay Oliver (USA). Designer and performance optimisation expert Jason Ker (GBR); Aero and Hydrodynamics specialist Rodrigo Azcueta (ARG); Hydrofoiling Catamaran specialist (and America’s Cup winner with BMW Oracle for the 33rd America’s Cup) Benjamin Muyl (FRA) are already on board.


The UK has consistently produced excellent performances in sports that marry the human body with a machine; we know that Britain has the sporting and technological expertise to succeed in the America’s Cup. BAR plans to forge strong relationships wherever the skills and technology are to be found – not just in the traditional marine industry – and it will create these relationships based on a sustainable business model. And just as many F1 teams develop and bring to market the technologies they produce, BAR will look to replicate this model in its own way.

The Sailing Team Manager will be the highly experienced New Zealander and three-times America’s Cup winner, Jono Macbeth who sailed with Ainslie in both the 2007 and 2013 America’s Cups. Other signings at this early stage include Britain’s David Carr and Nick Hutton who both raced with Luna Rossa in the 34th America’s Cup, Andy McLean (NZL) who was part of the Artemis Racing team in 2013 and former World Match Race Champion, Matt Cornwell (GBR). The rest of the management team is made up of James Stagg, who takes the role of Shore Team Manager; Andy Hindley has joined as Chief Operating Officer, a position he also held with the America’s Cup Race Management organisation for the event in San Francisco; Ainslie’s long-term Commercial Manager, Jo Grindley heads up the Commercial, Marketing, Communications and Events teams.


The British team also announced its first major partner – 11th Hour Racing Inc, a company focused on sustainable sailing. BAR will showcase a sustainable business model, and rethink the way natural resources are used to deliver a winning team. BAR will work with 11th Hour Racing to achieve this, encouraging staff and their supply chain to design out waste and manage resources efficiently, redesign the organisational process, work with universities, research institutions and innovative companies to develop new technologies, and create a template for the wider marine industry.

Announcing their sponsorship of BAR, Jeremy Pochman, Director of 11th Hour Racing, Inc. said: "11th Hour Racing Incorporated promotes better practices in competitive sailing while connecting the team with the means to make our sport more sustainable and promote the health of our oceans. We committed our inaugural sponsorship to Ben Ainslie Racing because of the team’s goal to build and race sustainably for the America’s Cup.”

The team also announced that they have signed Official Partner agreements with KPMG (Business development partner), Linklaters (Legal services), Henri Lloyd (technical clothing), Siemens NX (software supplier) Scorpion Ribs (support boats) and technical supply deals with Princecroft Willis (accountancy services), Esteco SpA (engineering software), SOS Rehydrate (medical drinks) and The Goring (hospitality partner).


Ben Ainslie Racing Team Members

Investor Group and Board Members

Sir Charles Dunstone - Founding Shareholder and Chairman

Sir Keith Mills GBE - Founding Shareholder and Board Member

Chris Bake - Founding Shareholder and Board Member

Peter Dubens - Founding Shareholder

Robert Elliott - Independent Board Member

Lord Michael Grade CBE - Independent Board Member

Lord Irvine Laidlaw - Founding Shareholder

Ian Taylor - Founding Shareholder

Jon Wood – Founding Shareholder and Board Member

Management Team

Sir Ben Ainslie (GBR) – Team Principal and Skipper

Jono Macbeth (NZL) – Sailing Team Manager and Sailor

Andy Claughton (GBR) – Technical Director

Andy Hindley (GBR) – Chief Operating Officer and Chief Finance Officer

James Stagg (GBR) – Shore Team Manager

Jo Grindley (GBR) – Head of Commercial, Marketing, Communications and Events

Design Team

Andy Claughton (GBR) – Design and Naval Architecture

Dirk Kramers (NED/USA) – Design and Engineering

Clay Oliver (USA) – Design and Performance Simulation

Rodrigo Azcueta (ARG) – Design and Computational Fluid Dynamics

Luc du Bois (SUI) – Instrumentation and Performance Analysis

Francisco Azevedo (POR) – 3D Modelling

Jason Ker (GBR) – Design and Naval Architecture

Matteo Ledri (ITA) – Computational Fluid Dynamics

Johannes Mausolf (GER) – Performance Prediction and Software Development

Benjamin Muyl (FRA) – Design and Naval Architecture

Simon Schofield (GBR) – 3D Design and Modelling

Benjamin Vernieres (FRA) – 3D Modelling

Sailing Team

Sir Ben Ainslie (GBR) – Skipper

Jono Macbeth (NZL) – Sailing Team Manager

Andy McLean (NZL)– Sailing and Design Team Liaison

David Carr (GBR) – Sailing Team

Matt Cornwell (GBR) – Sailing Team

Nick Hutton (GBR) – Sailing Team

Buzz Light Beer
06-10-2014, 09:51 AM
I thought David Carr was a quarterback

The Flash
06-11-2014, 12:10 PM
SF out officially. check sfgate for update

Sanity Check
06-11-2014, 01:57 PM
They do have deep dish, if you are into that sorta thing.

Yes! To each his own!

As for me, deep dish pizza is an abomination... along with "California style" which is its everted and high-piled analog... though there is something to be said for sourdough and cornmeal crust...

Ultimately, only pizza made according to doctrine prevalent in New York City and surrounding environs (i.e. Northern Garden State) meets what I'd consider to be a world-class culinary standard: thin crust, thin sauce, thin cheese, and grease which tries to run down your forearm when you fold it and eat it.

06-11-2014, 03:35 PM
SF out officially. check sfgate for update

(06-11) 11:46 PDT -- San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee got an unwelcome letter late Tuesday night: As rumored, the city was ruled out of hosting the 2017 America's Cup sailing races.

Russell Coutts, director of the America's Cup Event Authority, e-mailed the mayor confirming news reports that San Francisco hadn't made the shortlist to host the 35th sailing regatta. San Diego, Chicago and Bermuda are still in the running.

"Given the tight timeline and demands from prospective teams to confirm the final venue, it has been necessary to continue reducing the shortlist of candidate cities," Coutts wrote. "We have therefore taken the difficult decision to no longer consider San Francisco as a possible candidate to host AC35."

The letter gives no explanation, but Lee has been adamant that the city not use general fund money to host the event after losing $11.5 million in city funds on the sailing races last year. In addition, the mayor wanted the race organizers to pay rent on the piers and to pay prevailing union wages for construction projects. Those demands seemed to be a no-go with Coutts and Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle. As last year's winner, Ellison gets to make the ultimate decision on the host city.

Coutts in his letter said that the race organizers would be open to discussing hosting the 36th event in San Francisco - probably in 2021 or thereabouts. He also said he'd be open to hosting an America's Cup World Series event in San Francisco in 2015 or 2016. Those are a series of races leading up to the big America's Cup event.

Lee said he would be open to hosting a World Series event since they're not as expensive and don't take as much preparation. He didn't seem to be too disappointed in losing the larger race.

"We've been very reasonable in our approach," he said. "We were hoping that the success of the event (last year) would have them take another look, but I think all we can do is be proud of the fact that we hosted a really great event and that we were willing to do it again in a more rational way."


On the positive side, Artemis Racing is staying and we will hopefully see them out training again and perhaps their 62' on SF for a while.
Oracle Racing still has Pier 80 as a base, and while cannot get a confirmation, most likely will be doing training and testing here before moving
to Chicago, San Diego or Bermuda?

Built to List
06-11-2014, 03:39 PM
Coutts in his letter said that the race organizers would be open to discussing hosting the 36th event in San Francisco - probably in 2021 or thereabouts

ASSUME much?

Buzz Light Beer
06-11-2014, 05:02 PM
C'mon Ainslie, bury this turd.

Bitchin Bow Dude
06-11-2014, 05:25 PM
What's the over/under on whether or not Sir Ben will shag Kate Middleton before this next round of America's Farce?

Honey Badger
06-11-2014, 09:16 PM
who says he hasn't already?

06-12-2014, 09:41 AM

On Thursday Luna Rossa Challenge released several videos and stories detailing their team for the 35th America’s Cup.

Patrizio Bertelli, the passionate team principal of Luna Rossa, introduced Max Sirena as skipper for the second consecutive challenge:

“In addition to his unquestionable technical skills, one of Max’s strongest qualities is the ability to manage relationships with his staff: he understands the needs and rationale of each department in the team and puts himself on an equal level with everyone. He is also a strong team builder: success in the America's Cup is never the result of an individual but a combination of factors that lead to the victory of an entire team.”

Sirena says he has retained the core of the team from the last America’s Cup, adding some crucial parts to develop the strongest possible team. And he looks to the results of the last Cup for proof that you must never stop improving:

“The America's Cup is an ongoing process and until the last day of the last regatta you must study, design, improve. Oracle team USA has proved this in the last edition: at a disadvantage of 8 to 1 they introduced technical innovation, steadily improved crew performances by learning from their mistakes, reacted with determination and managed to turn the tables, winning the America's Cup at 9 to 8!”

The Luna Rossa Challenge sailing team:

Max Sirena
Francesco Bruni
Pierluigi de Felice
Chris Draper
Ben Durham
Shannon Falcone
Bora Gulari
Emanuele Marino
Marco Mercuriali
Adam Minoprio
Manuel Modena
Gilberto Nobili
Alister Richardson
Pietro Sibello
Simeon Tienpont



Dutch Rudder
06-12-2014, 08:07 PM
I thought Bora was a young Turk, doesn't Turkey have a team yet?

06-29-2014, 02:16 PM
Unfortunate that Alameda was not considered as an alternative to SF - lack of space ?

Charlie Tuna
06-29-2014, 04:09 PM
No there, there. Sponsors want to be in the mix, not on the outskirts.

Nice to here the Kiwi's are back in. Sorta. The drama with ENTZ and Dalton, Coutts and Spithill is beyond unbearable.

How much do these guys bring in every year, to basically, sail a boat?

07-08-2014, 10:13 PM

It will either be Bermuda or San Diego to Host AC 35 the cup reps stated today:

"We really need a place that warm so Jimmy can continue to sail nude," Russell Coutts stated, " Spitty has really taken a fancy to the the liberating aspects of no confining foulies while sailing, and we hope to keep him happy and avoid any embarrassing shrinkage you might get in less favourable climes."


No NOT Really...

Heres the official release right here:

The island of Bermuda and the city of San Diego have been shortlisted as potential host cities for the 35th America’s Cup.

Chicago, which had also been under consideration, is now a likely venue for America’s Cup World Series racing in 2015 and 2016.

“Both Bermuda and San Diego have made very compelling cases to be the host for the next America’s Cup,” said Russell Coutts, Director of the America’s Cup Event Authority (ACEA). “We will be in good hands with either venue.”

Bermuda is 640 miles (1,030 km) east-southeast of North Carolina. It is known to sailors for the Newport to Bermuda race, as well as the Bermuda Gold Cup match-racing event, both of which have a long history of success on the island and a sterling reputation among sailors. America’s Cup racing in Bermuda would take place close to shore, within the Great Sound.

San Diego is one of only seven cities to have hosted the America’s Cup. When the Cup was previously held there in 1988, 1992 and 1995, the race course was far offshore, on the ocean waters beyond Point Loma. But if San Diego were selected as the venue this time, racing would take place in San Diego Bay, offering incredible viewing opportunities for spectators along the city’s waterfront.

To advance the venue selection process over the coming months, the America’s Cup Event Authority will work closely with both venues to finalize logistics requirements and commercial opportunities, as well as to establish the needed relationships with private and public entities to ensure a successful event.

It is through this process that the final host city for the next America’s Cup will emerge.

“We are now able to focus on two venues that are motivated and enthusiastic at the prospect of hosting the next America’s Cup,” Coutts concluded. “I’m confident that we’re on target to finish with a venue that allows us to achieve our goal of hosting an exciting and successful America’s Cup built on a strong commercial foundation.”

The host city for the next America’s Cup will be announced by ACEA before the end of this year.

07-18-2014, 03:08 PM

It's understood the Australian challenger of record, the Hamilton Island Yacht Club, is withdrawing from the 35th edition of the race.

The syndicate says the new protocols set by challengers Oracle are too hard to prepare for when no dates or venue have been confirmed for the event.

Yachting commentator Peter Montgomery says it's a further twist in the buildup for the next regatta as another challenger of record bites the dust.

- Radio Sport

Potential America's Cup challengers have aired their concerns about the next regatta to holders Oracle at a summit in Los Angeles.

Representatives from syndicates in New Zealand, Australia, France, Italy, Britain and France got together with the American holders to thrash out some of the issues raised in the recently released protocol for the next regatta due to be held in 2017.

The meeting was initiated by Iain Murray, the chief executive of the challenger of record, the Hamilton Island Yacht Club.

Team New Zealand were represented by chief operations officer Kevin Shoebridge.

The Kiwis are remaining silent on the meeting, preferring to digest the ramifications.

Like all involved, they saw the meeting itself as a positive step but clearly there are some common issues facing the challengers as Oracle continue to revolutionise sport's oldest contest.

It's understood some of the more contentious points raised were:

- The possibility of Bermuda hosting the final. It is short-listed with San Diego and clearly poses potential limitations for teams like Team New Zealand who are reliant on private sponsorship and exposure. San Francisco's jettison was also raised despite last year's success.

- The plan to have a qualifying regatta at a separate venue, possibly in the southern hemisphere, that would add significant costs.

- An arbitration panel replacing the International Jury and therefore eliminating involvement from the sport's world governing body, the International Sailing Federation.

- The $US3 million in entry fees and insurance cover that needs to be paid by the end of the year.

The Independent newspaper in Britain reported that UK challenge boss Sir Ben Ainslie was also finding the deadlines difficult to work with as he looks to secure the final pieces of his funding jigsaw.

Like Team New Zealand, he is reliant on a mix of government and private money, but like the Kiwis is finding it difficult to nail down specific funding until Oracle make a decision on the Cup venue.

The delay also affects design specifics relevant to the final venue as the brains trusts bury themselves into coming up with their versions of the 62-foot catamarans

After this initial talk-fest, the first big test of faith for challengers comes on August 8 when the deadline for entries, accompanied by a US$1m fee, arrives.

Team New Zealand have confirmed they have the finances to survive this difficult first year in the new America's Cup cycle and have pending sponsorships in place to move forward next year.


07-18-2014, 04:32 PM

The America’s Cup organizers have received notification from the principals of Hamilton Island Yacht Club of their intention to withdraw Team Australia from the 35th America’s Cup.

“We are very disappointed to be receiving this news,” said Russell Coutts, Director of the America’s Cup Event Authority (ACEA). “We were excited to have Australia as a challenger again and we were also looking forward to the prospect of holding America’s Cup World Series events in Australia.

“But our focus going forward is with the teams that have already submitted challenges and the teams that have told us of their intent to do so before the entry deadline on August 8th.

In the meantime, ACEA is continuing its work to select a host venue for the America’s Cup in 2017. The selection process is progressing well with an aim to announce the final venue in October.

Ben Ainslie Racing (BAR), which revealed its America’s Cup team in a gala ceremony in London last month, had this comment:

We remain supportive of the Defender’s continued drive towards a more commercial event format, along with a more sustainable future for this historic trophy. BAR will be bidding to host two America’s Cup World Series events in 2015/16 at our new home in Portsmouth; as a key part of the road to the 35th America’s Cup. While the withdrawal of the Challenger of Record is regrettable, it is also not unusual and we will continue our own preparations for the 35th America’s Cup and look forward to an exciting future.

07-18-2014, 06:32 PM
Saturday 19 July 2014, Hamilton Island, Australia:

Hamilton Island Yacht Club today announced its withdrawal from the 35th America's Cup.

The Hamilton Island Yacht Club became the Challenger of Record for the 35th America’s Cup upon the completion of the 34th America’s Cup in San Francisco in 2013.

In commenting on the decision not to proceed with the challenge, Sandy Oatley said “When we entered the Cup we had the intention of trying to change the Cup in many ways. Our position as Challenger of Record gave us the opportunity through the drafting of the protocol to affect this change. Central to these changes, was the desire to make the participation in the Cup more affordable and more sustainable.”

Bob Oatley said “The Challenge was initiated with a view to negotiating a format for the 35th America’s Cup that was affordable and put the emphasis back on sailing skills. Ultimately our estimate of the costs of competing were well beyond our initial expectation and our ability to make the formula of our investment and other commercial support add up. We are bitterly disappointed that this emerging team of fine young Australian sailors will not be able to compete at the next America’s Cup under our banner”.


Sophie Baker
Corporate Communications Director
Hamilton Island Yacht Club

Dave T
07-19-2014, 08:30 AM
This is why the AC should not be in the hands of the winner.
It should be run as an international competition by an International Group.

Everyone should just not go to the party until it gets changed.
Let Larry look at the Cup sit on his shelf until some major changes are made.

Nothing like holding a party and nobody shows up.
I hope it is a bust so changes can be forced.

Nick Salvador
07-25-2014, 02:19 PM
If Ellison has any brain cells left at all, he'll cut Coutts loose. The guy is a self possessed cancer on everything he touches.

PB, why can't we get an interview with the Commodore of the GGYC and ask him about the b.s. of hosting the regatta in San Diego? Aren't they even embarrassed by this?

07-26-2014, 08:55 AM
Not even sure who the current Commodore is... What is it exactly the "we" are asking?...

What their honest thoughts are on the club not hosting in SF? I doubt "we" would get anything more pasteurized / homogenized
PC answer...

Charlie Tuna
07-26-2014, 11:36 AM
I'm pretty sure any and all members of the team and YC signed some sort of "I wont say anything negative about the event or team or leaders" document when they teamed up with OTUSA.

07-27-2014, 08:55 AM
The deadline of August 8 (registration deadline) is fast approaching and still no challenger appears officially registered. With the withdrawal of Team Australia, the challenger of record, it is found even in a difficult situation where there are more team to negotiate with the U.S. defender Oracle Team USA!

While there is no doubt that Luna Rossa, Artemis, Team New Zealand and probably BAR Racing register before August 8, Team France should also be able to join the first quartet and why not toast the favor by becoming the new challenger of record if registered before them!

Just a reminder to register, prospective challengers must pay more than $ 3 million by the end of the year distributed as follows: 1,075,000 dollars on August 8, then 2 million on December 1 (including 1 million deposit returned at the end of the 35th America's Cup).

According to a source close to the case (as we say!), Team France, Cammas / trio Desjoyeaux / Kersauson is about to sign an "agreement" (with or without?) With the largest hotel group French and the first European manufacturer. Two major partners in the international dimensions ...

07-27-2014, 09:07 AM
The last time around LE provided a significant level of funding to launch the concept - ACWS and all transportation costs, liveline graphics, on board cameras, TV, extensive race data, a few years of the discover program, etc.

Guessing he's like to see it stand on it's own two feet, at least with the venue this time around, and SF clearly has other ideas, but they also use double standards with city services for other events. It's a 1% issue in their mind.

Why not Alameda ?

Nick Salvador
07-27-2014, 09:25 AM
I'm pretty sure any and all members of the team and YC signed some sort of "I wont say anything negative about the event or team or leaders" document when they teamed up with OTUSA.

How does that work? OTUSA is defending for the GGYC, not the other way around. I'm longing for the days of a defender selection series. IMHO, Coutts and Ellison have become every bit as bad as Bertarelli; and the GGYC a ridiculously limp wristed steward of the competition.

Nick Salvador
07-27-2014, 09:31 AM
I look at this a bit differently. If someone decides that they want to make a bunch of money off of the public, then they ought to be willing to risk the capital to make that happen. Asking for the public to fund a professional sports venture, whether it be the 49ers or Warriors or Raiders stadiums where the profits are realized by a privately owned franchise galls me. I don't consider the Cup, operating under this commercialized vision, to be any different.

El Capitan
07-27-2014, 09:48 AM
Dave T probably has it right, with an international committee in charge of the cup, it's protocols and venue keeping things on the up and up.

Was not this A-Cup competition originally a nation vs nation thing?

07-28-2014, 07:57 AM
It was, and you forgot "friendly".

IOR Geezer
07-28-2014, 09:16 AM
Shit may hit the fan in two weeks:


07-28-2014, 09:44 AM
This just in, Alameda won't take no for an answer...



Charlie Tuna
07-28-2014, 09:57 AM
That's all well and good, but the likes of Prada's chief fashion profiteer, Bertelli, likes to have foot traffic to buy overpriced handbags.

You would still need the SF City Front to run the races, not impossible, but very unlikely.

El Capitan
07-28-2014, 11:37 AM
Shit may hit the fan in two weeks:


Yachting: Coutts could walk from Cup

By Paul Lewis

Sir Russell Coutts faces pressure to change the Cup rules. Photo / AP Sir Russell Coutts faces pressure to change the Cup rules. Photo / AP

Mark down August 8 in the diary. It's when the future of the 35th America's Cup and that of its principal architect, Sir Russell Coutts, could be altered.

August 8 is when the first of the US$2 million ($2.34m) entry fees are due. But with the Cup currently in limbo - with no venue and the Challenger of Record, Australia's Hamilton Island Yacht Club, withdrawing - there's a chance August 8 will come and go with few clinking noises in Oracle Team USA's money jar.

So far, they have just two challengers - Italy's Luna Rossa and Sweden's Artemis. Under Cup rules, Oracle cannot accept these until there is at least a third.

Yachting circles in New Zealand and abroad are awash with gossip other potential challengers could be about to turn the screw on Coutts by withholding entries until changes are made to the unpopular protocol Oracle released earlier this year and, more particularly, until a more favourable venue is chosen.

It's little wonder some doom merchants have speculated the Cup may not be held this time round. There's a long way to go before that happens and more likely is one of two options - Coutts will relent and change the rules in the protocol earlier this year, bringing in more challengers.

Or he will walk away.

Talk in yachting circles suggests Coutts has a "Bertarelli clause" in his contract with Oracle boss Larry Ellison.

Coutts, after being ditched by Alinghi team owner Ernesto Bertarelli, is said to have kept a clause in his contract which gave him control of Oracle's Cup campaigns, or he could pick up his outstanding salary and bonus and leave.

He intimated last year the 34th Cup could be his last, win or lose, and he has certainly achieved all that can be in this event.

That could be one reason why Ellison has played no part in Cup matters so far. But, if he gets involved on August 8, when his vision has realised only three challengers (again), he may intervene and the Bertarelli clause could be actioned.

Doesn't seem that far fetched.

07-29-2014, 09:39 AM
Statement from the America’s Cup Teams meeting 29/07/14 via Artemis Racing

LONDON, 29th July 2014 – ORACLE TEAM USA hosted a meeting with four of the teams who have entered the 35th America’s Cup or plan to by the 8th August 2014, Luna Rossa, Artemis Racing, Team France and Ben Ainslie Racing.

A positive meeting saw a number of points debated, the key points agreed between all parties present were:

Regular meetings encompassing all teams in order to work collectively to maximize the potential of both this America’s Cup and future editions

Each team plan to host an America’s Cup World Series event in either their own country, or a country of their choice

All the teams present agreed they would commit if they were to win the Cup in 2017 to continue with the America’s Cup World Series

A commitment to further reduce the costs for both this Cup and future cycles
Support for the choice of host venue, be it Bermuda or San Diego

A working group to agree on the date and event structure of the 36th America’s Cup to lay the foundations for a sustainable event




Conan the Librarian
07-30-2014, 08:04 AM
Don't hurricanes happen in June and July that could visit Bermuda?

08-21-2014, 09:53 AM
British Challenge accepted for the 35th America’s Cup

20th August 2014: Royal Yacht Squadron Racing (RYSR) has had its challenge accepted by the America’s Cup defender, the Golden Gate Yacht Club of San Francisco. RYSR is the affiliate club of the Royal Yacht Squadron and the challenging club for Ben Ainslie Racing (BAR), now the official British entry for the 35th America’s Cup in 2017.

The Golden Gate Yacht Club (GGYC), having won the 34th America’s Cup, holds the America’s Cup in accordance with the terms of a Deed of Gift dated 24 October 1887 and will be hosting the event in three years’ time, although the location is yet to be confirmed, being either San Diego or Bermuda.

RYSR submitted its Notice of Challenge to the GGYC during the two-month open entry period which closed on Friday 8th August. The entry has now been formally accepted.


Each team that challenges for the America’s Cup is required to do so through a host club. The America’s Cup started its long history at the Royal Yacht Squadron when the schooner America beat a fleet of British racing yachts to the finish line there on 22 August 1851, watched by Queen Victoria.

“We are delighted that Ben Ainslie Racing, led by Sir Ben, has asked Royal Yacht Squadron Racing to challenge on his behalf and are sure that, if anyone can bring the Cup back to its original home, he and his excellent BAR team can,” commented Simon van der Byl, CEO of RYSR.

Panama Red
08-27-2014, 09:50 PM
Don't hurricanes happen in June and July that could visit Bermuda?

That's why they will all be required to wear Bermuda shorts

08-31-2014, 01:38 PM

The crews at Oracle Team USA at Pier 80 have been busy of late packing up and readying for the transition from San Francisco to the new home on the Puget Sound in Washington. The team decreased their footprint at the pier to 1/2 of what was used during AC 34 shortly after their sucessful defense.


(Images from arrival of Dogzilla's wing, January 2013)

Dogzilla was built in Anacortes and the team still maintains a presence in the form of
Core Builders Inc....


No info on whether the team will keep any training of staff in San Francisco or any other location in the Bay Area, but one imagines they will send that portion of their program to either San Diego of Bermuda...


Dirty Sanchez
09-02-2014, 08:39 PM
Anacortes gets cold in the winter.

They'll be back.

09-17-2014, 10:25 AM



As most teams have already modified their AC 45's already, today's breaking news is, well sorta old news...

The six America’s Cup teams have agreed to a project that will see the existing fleet of AC45 catamarans modified into fully foiling catamarans for racing in the America’s Cup World Series (ACWS).

Importantly, the teams have also committed to continue to race the foiling AC45s on the America’s Cup World Series circuit in 2018, following the conclusion of the 35th America’s Cup in 2017.

“I’m pleased all of the competitors have agreed on a way forward, beyond the current America’s Cup cycle,” said Harvey Schiller, the Commercial Commissioner for the 35th America’s Cup.

“To have the teams give certainty to all stakeholders as to what will happen following the racing in 2017, regardless of who wins, is a huge step forward for all involved.”

The teams have undertaken the project to modify the one-design AC45s into fully foiling catamarans with a view to racing the foiling versions as early as the 2015 ACWS season.

A feasibility study has been commissioned to determine whether the mods will need to wait until the 2016 season as the timeline to make changes to the entire fleet ahead of racing in 2015 is extremely tight.

The competitors have also appointed a working group to select a Regatta Director, as required by the Protocol.

Charlie Tuna
09-17-2014, 10:43 AM
Next thing you know they will announce is they will be using wings.

Built to List
09-18-2014, 01:50 PM

Ellison steps down as CEO of Oracle, more sailing for Larry?

IOR Geezer
09-18-2014, 02:05 PM
Conversely, If Ellison is not CEO, will any support of America's Cup sponsorship be subject to the boards approval?

10-24-2014, 11:59 AM

...um...does the GGYC know yet?


Panama Red
10-24-2014, 12:38 PM
That's quite a coup.

The Flash
10-25-2014, 10:14 AM
that reporter has almost as much attention to detail as Photoboy.

10-28-2014, 09:25 AM


ALAMEDA, 28th October 2014 - Artemis Racing is pleased to announce its 7th Olympic gold medalist with 2008 Laser Olympic Champion Paul Goodison joining the sailing team.

Paul brings a wealth of Olympic experience to Artemis Racing, having competed at the 2004 Athens, 2008 Beijing and 2012 London Games. He is also a former Laser World Champion claiming the 2009 title in Halifax, Canada.

Since the London Olympics, Paul has won the Melges 32 World Championships in 2012 and the Melges 20 World Championships in 2014, while also sailing in the 2014 Extreme Sailing Series with BAR. More recently, Paul has been developing his foiling skill set, training and competing in the Moth, claiming a respectable 12th rank in his first ever Moth Worlds earlier this year.

“The America’s Cup is the pinnacle of our sport and I’m really excited to be joining Artemis Racing. I’m fortunate to have spent a few weeks at the team base in Alameda, and what has impressed me most is the incredible work ethic and culture within the group. The America’s Cup finals are still almost three years away but with the buzz at the base, you would think they were next week. I took part in the team’s recent foiling camp, and it was great to be working alongside Nathan and Iain and the amazing talents here at Artemis Racing.

I’m looking forward to working with this incredible team on our quest to win the 35th America’s Cup” commented Paul.

Team Manager Iain Percy said “Paul is a tremendous sailing talent and light wind specialist, which will be a key skill in San Diego or Bermuda. He is a complete professional, but more importantly, I’m confident he will fit straight into the culture that we have created at Artemis Racing. His recent experience sailing Moths will also be invaluable as we work to develop and build the most advanced America’s Cup yacht in history."

Paul joins the team primarily as a Helmsman but will also work in a number of other roles depending on the sailing and testing program.

11-05-2014, 10:05 AM
Editors Note: This is NOT the announcement you have been waiting for.
The actual awarding of the America's Cup 35 hosting will not be made until next month!


Island builds on strong heritage of hosting top sailing events

The America’s Cup World Series - a racing circuit featuring the best sailors in the world, competing on foiling, wingsailed catamarans - will be coming to Bermuda in October of 2015.

The America’s Cup World Series is the first stage of competition in the 35th America’s Cup and begins in the summer of 2015. Featuring all of the America’s Cup teams racing in one design AC45 catamarans, the circuit is an early opportunity to put points on the board that carry forward into the next stage of the competition.

Overall ranking position in the America’s Cup World Series determines the starting points score of the teams in the America's Cup Qualifiers in 2017.



“We’re delighted to be able to announce Bermuda will host the America’s Cup teams from October 16-18, 2015,” said Premier, the Honourable Michael Dunkley, JP, MP.

“The waters of Bermuda are ideal for racing, as anyone who has sailed here can attest. We’re very excited to have our island be a part of the next America’s Cup and to have an opportunity to showcase our maritime heritage and first class hospitality to the America’s Cup teams.”

“Our team is working very hard to bring the America's cup to Bermuda and we are truly delighted to have the America’s Cup World Series here next year,” added the Honourable Grant Gibbons, Minister of Education and Economic Development and Bermuda’s America’s Cup Team Leader. “Given our history of sailing, our focus on the maritime environment and the engagement of our entire community, we are going to make this a very special event.”

Racing in the America’s Cup World Series - Bermuda will take place on The Great Sound, while the team bases and public race village will be located on the waterfront in the heart of the capital, Hamilton.

Bermuda remains as one of two contenders - San Diego is the other - to host the final stages of the America’s Cup in 2017. A decision on the final venue is expected in early December.

“When we started to look at Bermuda as a potential venue for 2017, it quickly became apparent that it would be an ideal location for an America’s Cup World Series event, regardless of the final venue decision,” explained Harvey Schiller, the Commercial Commissioner of the 35th America’s Cup.

“The racing conditions are good for the AC45s, the logistics are in place, and the island is renowned for its hospitality and its capabilities at putting together professional events. It’s a good fit for us.”

Bermuda is celebrated in the international sailing community as the finish port for the Newport-Bermuda race, which will celebrate its 50th edition during its next running in 2016, and for the Bermuda Gold Cup, the oldest one-design match racing event in the world, dating back to 1937.

Current America’s Cup skippers Ben Ainslie (2009, 2010) and Jimmy Spithill (2005) have both won the Bermuda Gold Cup, while Russell Coutts holds a record seven titles.

Now, the island will play to host to one of the opening events in the competition for the oldest trophy in international sport - the America’s Cup.

The Flash
11-05-2014, 03:25 PM
Of the 2 locales, I'm hoping for Bermuda

Prince of Whales
11-05-2014, 08:27 PM
Of the 2 locales, I'm hoping for Bermuda


The Flash
11-05-2014, 10:21 PM
well, I won't be attending either in person. I've sailed in both, and the locale, sea breeze, sheer gorgeousness of Bermuda swings it for me. Bermuda would definitely be better at taking money from a casual fan.

11-10-2014, 04:48 PM



Ben and company out an about giving the Foiling AC 45 a workout!

"The team were back out on the Solent training on-board ‘T1’ today. The training is going well, sailing, shore and design team are all happy with the progress and how things are moving forward in the short time frame since the launch back in October. Conditions were perfect today which enabled us to hit our top boat speed," said Ben Ainslie

Big Brass Balls
11-11-2014, 09:56 AM
Wouldn't it be cool if Ben won the cup and they brought back 12 meters?

11-11-2014, 03:05 PM

Dirty Sanchez
11-11-2014, 09:37 PM
What the hell, why not?

Mix it up a bit.....................

11-11-2014, 10:48 PM
What the hell, why not?

Mix it up a bit.....................
Really? 12 meters? I guess that could work--- Race starts..woohoo! Go do your grocery shopping for the week, get your cut, walk the dog--- then come back and watch the finish for a couple of hours...Yeah!

IOR Geezer
11-12-2014, 08:56 AM
With the technology for coverage they have these days, it could be quite intriguing.

I kinda like the idea, and the pomp an circumstance. At least for a cycle or two.

Single Hander
11-12-2014, 10:55 AM
Maybe with auxiliary oar power for light air days?

Big Brass Balls
11-12-2014, 11:40 AM

Time to start a retro revolution!

11-20-2014, 03:33 PM

There shall be closure.

PD Staff
11-20-2014, 05:40 PM
AP Source: Bermuda to Host 2017 America's Cup
SAN DIEGO — Nov 20, 2014, 6:26 PM ET

Associated Press

The tax haven of Bermuda has been picked over San Diego to host the 2017 America's Cup, a person with knowledge of the situation told The Associated Press on Thursday.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because defending champion Oracle Team USA, based in San Francisco, hasn't made the decision public.

The person said software billionaire Larry Ellison of Oracle Corp. made the decision after consulting with the CEO of his sailing team, Russell Coutts, a New Zealander who also is director of the America's Cup Event Authority.

Reached in New Zealand, Coutts declined to confirm the decision, saying he was under a non-disclosure agreement. Members of San Diego's bid effort, as well as officials with the Port of San Diego, also declined comment, saying they were under a non-disclosure agreement. Mayor Kevin Faulconer wouldn't comment, his spokesman said, declining to give a reason. The spokesman wouldn't say if the mayor's office was also bound by an NDA. Officials in Bermuda didn't return an email seeking comment.

America's Cup officials have scheduled a news conference in New York on Dec. 2 to announce the venue selection.

The choice of the British territory is intriguing, from its location at the northern tip of the Bermuda Triangle to the financial incentives that include tax-free status for regatta participants.

It's also sure to be unpopular with traditionalists and could mean the end of powerhouse Emirates Team New Zealand and perhaps other challengers.

This will be the first time a U.S. defender holds the America's Cup outside the United States. It'll also be the first time in the regatta's 163-year history that a defender sails the races in foreign waters by choice rather than necessity. In 2007 and 2010, Alinghi of Switzerland held the America's Cup in Valencia, Spain, because it wasn't practical to race on Lake Geneva.

Before he won the America's Cup in 2010, Ellison, one of the world's richest men with a fortune estimated at $52 billion, spoke of how he wanted to return the silver trophy to the United States after a 15-year absence. Now he's taking it offshore after just one cycle in America.

San Diego hosted the America's Cup in 1988, 1992 and 1995. In 1995, Coutts skippered Team New Zealand to a five-race sweep of Dennis Conner, the first of Coutts' five America's Cup victories, for three different countries.

A few weeks ago, a "for rent" signed popped up in the yard of Coutts' home in Coronado, across the bay from downtown San Diego.

Sailors and other members of America's Cup syndicates are expected to benefit from tax breaks offered by Bermuda. Some America's Cup sailors earn six-figure salaries. Others in the sport, such as Coutts, are paid millions of dollars a year. Bonuses are a big part of their pay packages.

Three of the six teams currently entered are owned by billionaires. Oracle Team USA is owned by Ellison; Italy's Luna Rossa Challenge is owned by Patrizio Bertelli, husband of Miuccia Prada of the Prada fashion house; and Sweden's Artemis Racing is owned by Torbjorn Tornquvist. Tornquvist's former business partner, Gennady Timchenko, is among those in a group of Russian President Vladimir Putin's inner circle targeted with U.S. sanctions


11-20-2014, 10:27 PM
Probably need to change description of the race.

"...A cut throat competition between international mega corporations..."

Built to List
11-21-2014, 09:51 AM
Lost all credibility when Hambone Island removed itself.

11-22-2014, 12:35 AM
And this completes the evolution from "[insert reference to douchey rich people behavior here] America's Cup" to just "[insert reference to douchey rich people behavior here] Cup".

12-02-2014, 10:17 AM

To the surprise of no one, the official announcement that Bermuda would indeed be host to the 35th America's Cup in 2017.


Second edition of the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup confirmed

The next America’s Cup will be raced in Bermuda in June of 2017. The host venue was confirmed at a press conference in New York on Tuesday by Harvey Schiller, the Commercial Commissioner for the America’s Cup.

See the video here

“In Bermuda we have a perfect international venue to demonstrate the excitement America’s Cup boats and teams can generate,” Schiller said. “The sailing conditions are near perfect. The race course on The Great Sound is a natural amphitheater with room for racing and spectators, amid a spectacular backdrop of islands and beaches. And the proposed America’s Cup Village at the Royal Naval Dockyard will be the heart of the event for the teams and fans alike.

“The 2017 America’s Cup will build on the successful elements that now define the event - close racing in fast, foiling catamarans crewed by the very best sailors in the world and delivered to an international audience by award-winning broadcasters.”

Michael Dunkley, the Premier of Bermuda, said hosting the America’s Cup would showcase the island’s strengths.

“We are honored that Bermuda was selected to host the 35th America’s Cup in 2017. Being the home of the America’s Cup is an extraordinary opportunity that aligns perfectly with the heritage, profile, spirit and future of our island,” Premier Dunkley said.

“We thank the America’s Cup Event Authority for their confidence in us – and for their vision to evolve the experience for spectators and participants alike. There is no more vivid and hospitable setting than Bermuda to stage an event of this nature and for the next evolution of the sport. This announcement today marks an exciting new chapter for Bermuda too. That our futures are linked in such a meaningful way will make for a great partnership.


“From the very start, Bermuda’s bid was designed around our many strengths, including our near perfect sailing conditions, our temperate year-round climate for team training, our optimal location and time zone for visitors and television viewers alike, the intimate and unmatched setting offered by Bermuda’s Great Sound, our maritime legacy and innovation, and the spirit and hospitality of our people.

“Our vision for the Americas Cup in Bermuda is to deliver an unforgettable experience that will be nothing short of spectacular for the teams, sponsors and spectators alike – whether they be with us on-island or watching from around the world.”

Six teams have so far taken up the challenge of racing for the next America’s Cup, the oldest trophy in international sport. The defending champion is ORACLE TEAM USA, which won the last event with a spectacular comeback over Emirates Team New Zealand, who return as a challenger, along with Artemis Racing (SWE), Ben Ainslie Racing (GBR), Luna Rossa Challenge (ITA) and Team France.

“Racing in Bermuda will be an incredible experience for the spectators, both on-site and for those watching the broadcast, and for the sailors, it’s going to be very challenging,” said ORACLE TEAM USA skipper, Jimmy Spithill. “I’ve raced there several times and the variety of conditions means you can never let your guard down. We’ll all need to be at the top of our game to have success and that’s how it should be.”

Red Bull Youth America’s Cup
The second edition of the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup was also confirmed in New York. In the inaugural edition, over 40 national youth teams (aged 19-23) applied to enter the qualifying phase. The top ten teams raced on the America’s Cup course in the same AC45 catamarans the pros had used in the America’s Cup World Series.

The purpose of the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup is to provide a pathway towards a career as a professional sailor in the America’s Cup. In that, it has already proved successful, after just one edition.

“Sailors on the winning team in the first event, Peter Burling and Blair Tuke, are now valued members of Emirates Team New Zealand,” said Schiller. “That’s an impressive proof of concept.”

America’s Cup World Series
All teams have been given an opportunity to host events in their home countries. At least four events are expected in 2015, including:

Season opener - To be announced - June 5-7, 2015
Portsmouth, Great Britain - July 23-26, 2015
Gothenburg, Sweden - August 28-30, 2015
Hamilton, Bermuda - October 16-18, 2015

Four to six events are expected in 2016, including a summer regatta in the USA in Chicago. A stop in Portsmouth, UK has already been confirmed for July 2016.

2017 - the year of the America’s Cup
In 2017, all teams will compete in their new AC62 catamarans, powered by highly-efficient wingsails and designed to fly above the water on foils at speeds near 50 mph. Racing begins for all teams with the first stage of the Louis Vuitton Cup (the America’s Cup Qualifiers), where the teams are seeded - with bonus points - according to their results in the Louis Vuitton World Series. The top challengers then go on to compete for the Louis Vuitton Cup in the America’s Cup Challenger Playoffs and the right to race ORACLE TEAM USA in the America’s Cup Finals in June 2017, which will be presented by Louis Vuitton.

Following the press conference in New York, the America’s Cup trophy was booked to fly to Bermuda for a ceremony on Wednesday.

12-02-2014, 12:34 PM

Image from the NY Presentation...the guy to the right of the auld mug...Is that Jon Stewart or Michael Douglas?

Prince of Whales
12-03-2014, 10:01 AM
It looks like the undocumented love child between beavis and micheal douglass

12-03-2014, 10:26 PM
Craig Leweck got Russell to chat a bit on the Cup, The venue decision, and related matters, which, believe it or not makes some sense...Check it out!

It has been 14 months since Oracle Team USA successfully defended the America’s Cup on San Francisco Bay. During that time, team CEO Sir Russell Coutts looked hard at the plan he helped to create for the 34th edition, and considered what steps were needed in hosting the next event. With the 35th America’s Cup now revealed to be Bermuda in 2017, Scuttlebutt editor Craig Leweck quizzed Russell to gain some insight into the process and future plans…

With the amazing display of racing the AC72s on San Francisco Bay in 2013, and the epic comeback by your team, interest in the America’s Cup was quite high. However, 14 months later, a lot of that momentum has now been lost. Explain why the planning takes so long?

Well let’s go back a few years to past America’s Cups. For example, when New Zealand won in 1995, it took five years. The next America’s Cup was in 2000, and it took a long time to develop that venue. With something as involved as this, where you’ve got broadcast contracts that affect the timing, you can’t just walk into a broadcaster and say, “Right, well we’ve got this great race going on, let’s screen it on your television program.” And they’ll say, “Well actually, we’ve got other programming on.” Even in 2017.

There are a whole range of considerations we had to balance and weigh up throughout this venue process, and that’s why you need the time to discuss all of those questions, and issues, and so forth, with the various parties. Not just the party that you’re necessarily negotiating with, but other interested parties, and figure things out.

Let’s discuss two of the key criteria.

One is having all of the teams based in one area that overlooks the course, which could also incorporate a central village. That was certainly one of the considerations.

The other consideration was time zone. Particularly when you look at who the location is for, certainly, most of the teams – in fact, four of the current six teams – are European-based. The time zone, particularly once you started a discussion with those European broadcasters, becomes a key point in the whole process.

When you think about all of the people that are outside the stadium, that are watching it on the broadcast platforms, this is a key consideration, that I suggest, the America’s Cup has not really got right, until now. It’s one of the main reasons why the dates weren’t announced when the Protocol was issued. A lot of people said to me actually, “Hey guys, how come you didn’t announce the dates?” And my answer to them was, “That we have to work through that with the broadcasters.”

If we want television for this event – and I’d assume that all of the teams definitely do; in fact, that’s not an assumption, we know that’s a fact – then you’ve got to get those sort of decisions right, and make sure that you’re in broadcast windows that are going to create value for the teams and their sponsors.

Commercial interest has certainly complicated the process to organize the America’s Cup, hasn’t it?

The broadcast is a major commercial element of the puzzle, which is why that was a major consideration. But there are other major commercial considerations as well that are major parts of the puzzle. I’ll give you another example – you go to any major sports event in the world, and there are many components to it, but two of the major factors facing a sports event are: the sponsorship component and the infrastructure component.

Particularly with America’s Cup, where you’re moving to a potentially new venue, and in fact, even if we got it staged in San Francisco again, we would’ve had to work through both the sponsorship and infrastructure components again. So this is the same process for most sporting events. And when we looked at the venue decision in terms of that criteria, Bermuda provided for both of those elements in a very, very efficient and well-run way.

So having all the team bases in one location was a priority… was that a strike against the other venue finalist, San Diego?

I’m not going to criticize any other venue, as many of the venues put a lot of effort to try and meet certain criteria. But, for example, that would have been very, very difficult in San Diego. It’s just that they didn’t have an open space which could effectively house even six AC62 teams together. But I should add, that’s quite a difficult criteria for most of venues to achieve.

Since the AC62 rule was released, there had been discussion of making the boat smaller. Is that still under consideration?

Part the way through the venue process, we discussed with the teams downscaling the size of the boats to give us more room to maneuver with some of the venues under consideration. It was quite an intense and robust discussion, with consideration also toward moving these boats around the world, the future of these boats, the costs, and so forth, how many crew they should have. But the teams didn’t vote for downsizing, for various good reasons actually. So anyway, we went through that process and that’s where we ended up, and I think it was – given the information – we’ve made the right decision.

There is a contingent that is critical of the venue now being held outside of the defender’s country. The America’s Cup is draped in tradition, and having the venue in Bermuda is contrary to this tradition. Has the America’s Cup now moved beyond this sentiment that the event should be hosted in front of the team’s club?

We clearly think it has moved beyond that. You’re right, we could have considered it, for example, selfishly, and said, “We’re just going to host it in front of our own club” without considering broadcast time zones, without considering where the other teams could be housed. We could have looked at it very narrowly, but this is an international event. It’s got international teams, and those teams have sponsors, and the broadcasters are an important part of that sponsorship. So we looked at some of those things and weighted them very, very highly.

Some people, no doubt, would rate very, very highly that the race should be conducted in front of their home club and membership, allowing their members to sit on their top balcony and watch the race. No doubt some people would rate that very highly. That was an item we weighted, for sure, but it was weighted much, much lower than, for example, broadcast efficiency.

Speaking of the event outgrowing past tendencies, the responsibility of the defender hosting the event inevitably creates a stop-start scenario for each America’s Cup. How much a burden is this now? Has the event outgrown this requirement?

The teams are in active discussions now about all kinds of efficiencies for the future, and I think you know, we were actually proposing talks to begin six to eight months before the last Cup ended. We were wanting to get all the teams together to discuss, “Okay, can we agree on the type of boat for next time? Can we agree on the year for next time? What are the areas of agreement we can have?” But unfortunately, we weren’t able to put anything in place last time, as various people did not want to enter into that process.

However, this time, these types of discussions are very active; the competitor’s forum has been very active. And you know what I think one of the main differences is, Craig? One of the main differences is, rather than having the rules advisers from each of the teams having these discussions, it is now the skippers of the teams who are sitting in that room having those discussions.

Now I think that’s, frankly, a quantum shift on where the America’s Cup’s been in the past. Now you’ve got Jimmy Spithill sitting there. You’ve got, often, Dean Barker sitting there. You’ve often got Nathan Outteridge or Iain Percy sitting there. You’ve got Franck Cammas sitting there. You’ve got sailors sitting there, making these decisions now. Also the design personnel are involved. They all have a vested interest in the future of the Cup.

So now, I actually believe that those discussions – well in fact I don’t believe, I know, those discussions have gone way, way further than any previous experience I’ve had with America’s Cup. And they are continuing to going way further.

Beyond the five challengers that have formally entered, it was announced that there are two additional groups that have expressed serious interest to enter as challenger. What are the guidelines for accepting more entries?

First of all, that time window is closing fast. We’re now in the process of modifying AC45’s into foiling boats, and that is right on the deadlines of achieving that before the first AC World Series event in June 2015. So, there’s certain practical constraints that we’ve got on for accepting new entries. But putting that to the side for a moment, the criteria is that any prospective group has to prove adequate funding, and then they have to follow obviously the normal entry requirements per the America’s Cup Deed of Gift. But, we haven’t – and won’t – imply additional financial obligations on any new competitors, and are considering them on a case-by-case basis. If we are to consider accepting any late entry, we really have to make sure they have the funding to make it through to the end of the Cup.

What has been decided in regard to the challenger elimination series? The Protocol indicates a scenario where teams may not advance to the final venue in Bermuda.

That’s under discussion now, and frankly, Craig, I’m pretty limited about what I can tell you. What I can tell you is, all of the teams will be going to Bermuda.

What are the immediate plans for Oracle Team USA?

We will be moving our base to Bermuda. The team’s got to do one last session in San Francisco in February. They’re going to be sailing a new test boat that has been built. That’s going to be starting in February in San Francisco and then the whole operation will move to Bermuda. The team is planning on being there in April.

With the venue now officially revealed, and some of the other details now publicly known, how good does it feel to be at this stage?

It’s been a very, very enjoyable process. I’m really happy with where are; this is a fantastic decision, and I’m absolutely convinced this is going to be a fantastic America’s Cup. It’s not a PR sell or anything like that; I believe it. I really do. It’s going to be the best one yet. I’m not over-hyping it as you’ve criticised certain people, rightly so, for the over-hype during the last event. It’s just that I reckon I’ve got good reason to believe this America’s Cup is going to be great.

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IOR Geezer
12-04-2014, 09:55 AM
While Russell can rationalize all he wants, the decision to hold the Cup at Bermuda is more than likely to face some legal challenges.

"We clearly think it has moved beyond that."

Does that statement bother anybody else, or is it just me?

12-04-2014, 09:19 PM
It's just another circus now.
Nothing to do with the America's Cup.

Charlie Tuna
12-05-2014, 09:50 AM
Never been there, certainly not going now.

So Uncle Larry and crew are moving in in April?

How will the crews find affordable housing? Shipping containers?

The Flash
12-05-2014, 01:49 PM
sailed there during an Intl 14 world champ in 2001. One of the most beautiful places I ever sailed, comparable to Kaneohe, of course, no volcanoes...

i didn't find it terribly expensive to rent a house and a scooter for a couple weeks.

Panama Red
12-05-2014, 02:43 PM
Bermuda's population continues to grow, but it real estate territory does not. Something like 3,000 people per square mile.

Long term housing can be a serious issue.

Cleveland Steamer
12-06-2014, 09:49 AM
The only reason to win the thing is to admire the reflection of yourself kissing it on the winners podium.

PD Staff
12-19-2014, 10:23 AM

Sailing Scuttlebutt (http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2014/12/19/lawsuit-filed-americas-cup-defender-oracle-team-usa/#sthash.HlktavPD.dpuf) reveal this morning that former Team Oracle Racing USA employee has filed suit revolving around King-post Gate that occurred during the last running of the America's Cup World Series:

San Francisco, CA (December 19, 2014) – A sailor on Oracle Team USA’s winning America’s Cup team claims in court that he had to shell out $68,000 for a lawyer to fight charges that he tweaked the rules by adding extra weight to a sailboat.

Matthew Mitchell sued Oracle Racing Inc. on Wednesday (Dec. 17) in Superior Court. Mitchell claims his employer told him to add the weight, so the employer should foot his legal bills.

Oracle Racing’s principle owner is Oracle billionaire Larry Ellison, who is not a party to the case.

Mitchell says that Oracle Racing hired him to prepare a 45-foot catamaran for the America’s Cup World Series, a string of races building up to the 34th America’s Cup, which took place in San Francisco Bay in 2013 and used 72-foot boats.

Mitchell says he flew to San Francisco in 2012 and joined his teammates on the Oracle Racing team.

“Immediately after his arrival, plaintiff was assigned by defendant to commission and prepare a boat known as the BAR45 (Ben Ainslie Racing),” the complaint states. His tasks were “listed on a ‘job list’ that was prepared and issued by defendant,” the complaint states. “Included in the ‘job list’ was a task listed as ‘Fill Kingpost.'”

The kingpost is a sturdy post near the bow that rises above the deck. Race officials subsequently found that the kingpost on Mitchell’s boat was too heavy and broke AC45 class rules.

Mitchell’s was named as a defendant by the America’s Cup International Jury and was required to attend a two-day hearing in August 2013. The jury decided that Mitchell probably participated in filling the kingpost with heavy resinous material.

The decision described Mitchell, who is from New Zealand, as a sailor and yacht rigger working on his fifth America’s Cup campaign, who should have known that because the kingpost on the AC45 class boat he was assembling was “nearly 2.5 times heavier than the norm, its legality was obviously questionable.”

Mitchell has had to pay for representation not only in the original hearing but also in subsequent investigations by the International Sailing Federation and Yachting New Zealand, according to the complaint.

Oracle Racing is required by the California Labor Code to indemnify Mitchell because he was preparing the boat in line with his employer’s instructions and has had to pay defense fees “as a direct and proximate result of the acts of defendant,” according to the lawsuit.

Mitchell seeks his legal fees, plus interest, and special damages for failure to indemnify under the California Legal Code.

He is represented by Joshua Gruenberg, of San Diego.

ServiceSource: Courthouse News (http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/12/19/sailor-sues-winning-americas-cup-team.htm)

- See more at: http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2014/12/19/lawsuit-filed-americas-cup-defender-oracle-team-usa/#sthash.HlktavPD.dpuf

IOR Geezer
12-19-2014, 11:05 AM
I suppose some of the documents contained within might shed some additional light onto who really was behind the cheating?

01-28-2015, 03:11 PM

Ben Ainslie Racing were the first America's Cup team both on – and under – the race course waters of the 35th America's Cup last week,
when the team conducted an initial training camp in Bermuda. Watch highlights from the team's first training camp.

02-04-2015, 10:05 AM


Oracle Team USA got back on their steeds again late last week, as the put together the Phantom Foilers
for a 4 - 5 week foiling practice session while the team finishes their final packing before heading off
to Bermuda. With the Flying Moth Worlds and ISAF World Cup events finished up, the sailing team members
of all AC Teams are regrouping for training, and if you keep a sharp eye out, you might catch Artemis
and Oracle Team USA engage in some friendly sparring matches over the next month!

(You might even see the new AC 45s out and about)


Charlie Tuna
02-04-2015, 10:49 AM
Why are you not out there getting da kine shots?

02-04-2015, 11:24 AM





Bestest I can do at moment...not sure it's even ready to splash...but then again..

Prince of Whales
02-04-2015, 11:29 AM
NOOIICCEE! Looks like a mini ac 72.

I assumed they were just going to modify the old ac 45's.

Angry Dolphin
02-04-2015, 05:14 PM
That is a bastardization of the old hulls.

Best part of the AC anymore is the Gucci mods and designs.

02-05-2015, 02:38 PM

Former Oracle Team USA grinder (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11397339) Matt Mitchell has filed suit
in San Diego, alleging gross misconduct against those who " threw him under the bus" when the hearings were held prior to the 2013 AC Finals on SF Bay

Fresh shots have been fired in the America's Cup cheating case that refuses to go away.

Kiwi sailor Matt Mitchell, a former grinder for Oracle Team USA, has filed complaints of gross misconduct against all five members of the America's Cup International Jury (ACIJ), including New Zealand's Graham McKenzie, with world sailing's governing body, ISAF.

His action follows a recently laid complaint against his former teammate Simeon Tienpont, who is now with Italian team Luna Rossa.

Mitchell claims the jury members were "selectively negligent" and he was "unwittingly used as a pawn in Oracle Team USA's quest to defend the America's Cup against Team New Zealand".

Mitchell's complaint is the latest development in a case that continues to rumble on some 16 months after Oracle overcame unprecedented penalties to stage one of the biggest comebacks in sport.

Docked two points before racing had even got under way in the 34th America's Cup match, Oracle won eight straight races to rebound from an 8-1 deficit and retain the oldest trophy in international sport.

Mitchell took no part in the contest after the international jury found him guilty of gross misconduct following a hearing into the illegal modification of the AC45 catamarans that Oracle sailed in warm-up regattas. He was banned for four races in the America's Cup match and subsequently never won his place back on the boat.

Following the America's Cup, the matter was referred to Yachting New Zealand, which ruled no further action should be taken against Mitchell. The Yachting New Zealand arbitration panel raised a number of questions with regard to the conduct and actions of the international jury while investigating the case.

In their findings, Yachting New Zealand wrote they were "troubled" the jury didn't include an allegation of gross misconduct against Tienpont who, according to the report, signed an interview record sheet stating he helped Mitchell modify a 45-foot catamaran that was skippered by British sailing star Ben Ainslie, who was a key member of Oracle's sailing team.

Mitchell also alleges the jury members had in their possession a document they failed to disclose that "fuels the implication of collusion".

"I have at all times told the truth during this episode and placed my reliance in the ISAF and ACIJ process to establish the facts. As competitors we are faced with no alternative but to trust in the administrators of our sport to adjudicate without bias, in this regard the ACIJ failed completely," Mitchell said.

McKenzie, the only New Zealander on the jury, has been singled out in Mitchell's complaint. Mitchell alleges McKenzie faces a further allegation of witness tampering by acting in an intimidating or threatening manner. McKenzie did not return calls from the Herald.

This month, Paul Henderson, a former ISAF president and former member of the International Olympic Committee, also filed complaints of gross misconduct against the five members of the jury in relation to the handling of the case. Henderson believes McKenzie should have recused himself from the jury due to a conflict of interest "either real or perceived".

McKenzie is a member of the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron, which backed Team New Zealand.

As part of his "indefatigable quest to bring the real perpetrators to account" Mitchell is also suing his former employer for the $80,000 he has spent on legal fees fighting the cheating accusations plus damages.

- NZ Herald

Additional Reading (http://www.chicoer.com/general-news/20150205/americas-cup-sailor-seeks-investigation-of-jury)

IOR Geezer
02-05-2015, 03:48 PM
The subservient crews bite back.

Will we find out who ordered the cheating now?

02-06-2015, 09:01 AM
Interesting read. The story continues... and all that.

What is even more startling is this story comes from a Chico publication. Did not know they followed the AC closely there.

02-06-2015, 09:12 AM

Artemis wins the race to be 1st to launch their Foiling 45' on San Francisco Bay!

Expect Oracle Team USA to launch their Foiling 45' very soon....

image courtesy Artemis Racing

IOR Geezer
02-06-2015, 09:52 AM
Looking good!

02-06-2015, 11:37 AM

Ben Sending It!

02-07-2015, 05:01 PM

Kiwi sailor Matt Mitchell believes Oracle's America's Cup victory over Team New Zealand would have been more difficult if not for the actions of the regatta's international jury.

Mitchell was one of four sailors banned from the series for illegally modifying boats, and has now filed complaints of gross misconduct against a former team mate and the jury who made the ruling.
VIDEO: Full interview with Matt Mitchell

Mitchell has spent the last 16 months searching for answers, but the closer he gets to the truth the more questions he has.

"How can that happen? How can a five-person panel have that admission preceding a hearing and call that guy as a witness? Where does that come from?" asks Mitchell. "So that's the question we want to ask, because something's not right."

The questions relate to Simeon Tienpont, Mitchell's former Oracle team mate and the only witness to give evidence against him in the cheating scandal that saw Oracle docked points before the America's Cup.

Mitchell has consistently denied his involvement, but the jury sided with the Dutchman, despite being the only sailor to admit guilt.

Full Interview (http://www.3news.co.nz/sport/full-interview-matt-mitchell-2015020618#axzz3R6gPy1zI)

"We believe I was traded for Simeon effectively," says Mitchell.

"You look back through the questioning of him, his answers, some of the other witnesses, and the way they were questioned and it feels like it was engineered - the outcome, it was predetermined."

Tienpont's responsibilities included controlling Oracle's controversial daggerboard system, and his loss from the crew would have dealt a major blow to Oracle's defence.

Mitchell's complaint against the process that allowed Tienpont to sail alleges "conspiratorial ineptitude" from the jury.

"I had one of my team mates stick knives in my back, and I think 'okay, that's a problem, but the jury will see this. They had an admission before the hearing, so they'll see how this has gone down and they'll sort this out', and it didn't go down like that.

"Even my attorney was saying 'these people are out of control, there's nothing we can do here'."

The International Sailing Federation closed its case with Mitchell last month. But they denied him the chance to clear his name, despite a Yachting New Zealand review that also questioned the jury and why Mitchell faced any charges at all.

The International Sailing Federation said they couldn't comment on a case under review, so for the time being Mitchell has to keep waiting for an answer.

3 News

Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/sport/matt-mitchell-speaks-out-over-oracle-cheating-case-2015020619#ixzz3R6gi8Ifb

02-10-2015, 04:36 PM


A few selects from this afternoon... this is NOT your fathers AC 45...more later with a view of Oracle Base...