View Full Version : Protocol Almost Complete for 36th America's Cup

08-15-2017, 10:20 AM

Article by Duncan Johnstone STUFF NZ (https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/95780477/Protocol-for-2021-Americas-Cup-basically-done)

Team New Zealand boss Grant Dalton says the protocol for the next America's Cup "is basically done" and they are on course to deliver it by the end of September.

Dalton is in Europe working on plans for the 2021 defence in Auckland with Italian challenger of record Luna Rossa.

He's also working on fundraising for the defence of the Auld Mug by Emirates Team New Zealand after their stunning win in Bermuda in June.

"There's a lot to do, it's a big job. There are two facets now – the team and the event. It's twice as big," Dalton said.

"The protocol is basically done. We are tweaking a few things, but they are only detail around dates and things like that. We are still committed to a protocol late in September."

He said they were determined to make it a swift process, rather than the tweaking of rules and regulations for Bermuda that dragged on for a year following Oracle Team USA's success in San Francisco in 2013.

"We need to give certainty and stability to the teams," Dalton emphasised.

There is huge anticipation about the class of boat to be used, with the multihull versus monohull debate in full noise, and also the competition structure.

Team New Zealand and Luna Rossa have already signalled a return to more of the traditions of the Cup and Dalton reiterated the desire for a nationality clause around crews and a country of origin for the boats.

"People will see a more respectful ... of the Deed of Gift as the founding document of the whole thing. In recent years it has gone away a lot from the principles of the Deed of Gift, so we are returning more to that."

Dalton suggested the structure of the 36th America's Cup regatta would be "more in line to when New Zealand last had it".

He felt adding a nationality feel was important.

"I think it's better when a nation is fighting another nation," Dalton said, citing Australia's breakthrough success against the United States in 1983.

He hopes an Australian syndicate will return to the scene in Auckland.

"There is certainly an ability for one," he said of the Australian talent that, like New Zealanders, has dominated rival teams in recent Cups.

Dalton said he was making early progress on his fundraising drive to back his syndicate's defence.

"It's moving in the right direction because we are already in the Cup and that makes every conversation a little easier," he said, referring to the financial struggles that enveloped the Bermuda campaign as uncertainty over Team New Zealand's involvement dragged on.

Team New Zealand were actively involved in planning for the substantial infrastructure that would be required in Auckland to host the event and said there had been "constructive conversations" with both Auckland City and the government.

"It is a big thing to put on and it's going to be great for Auckland," Dalton said.

- Stuff

Charlie Tuna
08-15-2017, 08:59 PM
Sounds like monohulls to me!

09-11-2017, 08:04 AM
NZ Herald (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11920979) indicates it will be Mono y Mono


The America's Cup is confirmed to return to monohulls.

Patrizio Bertelli, who heads challenger of record Luna Rossa - the syndicate negotiating terms for the next America's Cup with holders Team New Zealand, has told Italian newspaper La Stampa the event will be moving away from catamarans.

That today was confirmed by Team New Zealand, noting that a team of designers are working on monohull concepts after having consulted with a number of potential challengers.

"There is an overall desire to have a spectacular monohull yacht that will be exciting to match race, but also one that the public and sailors can relate to as a sail boat that really challenges a full crew of professional yachtsman around the race track," Team New Zealand said in a statement.

It appears the deal was effectively done over two years ago when Luna Rossa agreed to help out Team NZ ahead of the last America's Cup in Bermuda.

Bertelli said the Italian camp loaned Team NZ their test platform and key staff on the condition that if the Kiwi syndicate won in Bermuda, Luna Rossa would be instated challenger of record and the event would return to monohulls.

"It was the condition for Luna Rossa to help them with men and means in the last edition," Bertelli told La Stampa.

He said the new generation monohulls "will be very powerful boats" with foiling capabilities, but did not offer any further details.

Bertelli's comments confirmed the rumours that had been circulating even before Team NZ got their hands on the Auld Mug in Bermuda that they intended to take the event back to monohulls.

Foiling catamarans have featured in the last two America's Cup under former custodians Oracle Team USA. The move brought about a quantum shift for the event, bringing about high-speed racing, often pitched as the Formula 1 on the water.

IOR Geezer
09-11-2017, 10:08 AM
Austin Powers does resemble Patrizio Bertelli, doesn't he?

09-11-2017, 10:26 AM
Yawn. You are either going to have fast monos with not much maneuvering, or slow monos with lots of racing. Neither sounds better than what the last go round had, fast multis with some pretty close racing.

Charlie Tuna
09-11-2017, 02:49 PM
Straight line drag match racing?

09-19-2017, 09:07 AM

Source (http://www.lastampa.it/2017/09/18/esteri/lastampa-in-english/our-americas-cup-fair-and-without-multihulls-moTm5BKFOiXZb6tZjgkLcO/pagina.html)

In 2003 two men met in a warehouse in Auckland. They were Grant Dalton, legend of Kiwi yachting, and Matteo de Nora, successful entrepreneur of Italian descent. Team New Zealand had just lost the America’s Cup; their ship had been sunk. And they decided to re-float her. 14 years later, last June in Bermuda, they did it. It’s a new beginning for TNZ.

Now they must defend their victory. They opened with a change of course: no more flying catamarans, it’s back to monohulls. The plan was revealed to La Stampa by Patrizio Bertelli, patron of Prada and Luna Rossa (who launched the first challenge for the next Cup with the Circolo della Vela Sicilia, and as such became Challenger of Record and earned the power to decide the rules together with the Kiwis).

Grant Dalton, as Team New Zealand’s CEO you can tell us: what boats will we see in the next America’s Cup?
«Large and powerful monohulls, a development class. Technologically advanced yachts (it’s a return to monohulls, not a return to the past, echoes TNZ president de Nora) that demand highly competent sailors».

Goodbye to the sailing cyclists we saw in Bermuda?
«Grinders are coming back».

Yachts with foils?
«More details will released on November 30th».

At the end of this month you will make the Protocol public with the new rules for the 36th America’s Cup. They include nationality clauses: will they regard both men and equipment?
«No, only the sailors. There will be percentage that must carry a passport from the challenging country».

The finals for the Cup will be in Auckland in 2021. Various countries will host pre-America’s Cup racing: when and with which yachts?
«In 2019 and 2020, with the same yachts as the finals».

The alliance with Luna Rossa: a mere budgetary consideration?
«We’ve always been friendly. The friendship was transformed into an alliance in 2015, when Oracle, the defender, changed the cards on the table with the help of other teams. They shortened the catamaran to be sailed in the Cup match, canceling any progress made in research by Luna Rossa (Bertelli withdrew in protest). They cancelled an event and the Qualifiers already scheduled to take place in Auckland, leading our government to cut funding to the team, penalizing it (the Kiwi’s later won a court decision against Oracle who had to pay hefty damages). At this point we realized that we would be on our own, they started calling us the ‘Lone Wolves’ (here Dalton laughs), and we realized that to win the Cup and change the way things were done we needed a partner that had our same vision. An ally who would be honest, transparent, dependable. We found this ally in Patrizio Bertelli. The economic aspects came afterwards».

And when did you decide to return to monohulls?
«We first thought about it two years ago with Bertelli. In June, after the victory, we consulted with some potential challengers and that confirmed that we were on the right track».

But that way you lost the advantage acquired with the catamarans.
«Let me start by saying that we believe our design team is capable of giving us another great yacht, and that catamarans wouldn’t be ideal for the chop in Auckland. But I want it to be clear that winning the America’s Cup is a privilege, a privilege that includes the duty to safeguard it’s sporting value. That comes before individual advantage».

Well, in any case you decide it all.
«That’s not correct. The Defender doesn’t have absolute power. The Deed of Gift, the Magna-Carta for the trophy, requires that mutual consent be the basis for working with the challenger’s representatives. Only that, dazed by years of the defender’s regime, and with marionettes as Challengers of Record, we had lost sight of this».

What kind of America’s Cup will it be?
«Fair, with clear rules. And for the general public. Not alienating like Bermuda, there even the sailors didn’t understand what was going on».

Will there be a lot of Challengers?
«We hope so. We’ll create all the necessary conditions»
And in any case, remarked de Nora, better quality than quantity.

Cleveland Steamer
09-20-2017, 07:54 AM
Wonder about all those youth sailors that invested their time with the Red Bull thing?

I guess all that is out the window.

IOR Geezer
09-20-2017, 08:46 AM
I just hope they out the races on live in prime time here in the USA.

That should be an amendment in the protocol.